The Bridge versus MsPinky

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Trypset
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Re: The Bridge versus MsPinky

Post by Trypset » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:58 pm

Ms. Pinky FTW.

I think it's better than serato

1) I like how cheap it is
2) The HQ180 45RPM timecode are where it's at
3) Pinky VST is why I bought it
4) Very easy to set up on a track in ableton, loop, repeat, eff with

@Tone - THAT IS AN AWESOME TIP with point the directory to the live folder

I am not around my gear, is this immediate? Could it be setup with a hotkey to freeze/flatten with the push of a midi button? Please dive deeper..
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Re: The Bridge versus MsPinky

Post by RCUS » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:10 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:They're also used for two completely different things. In fact as far as turntable manipulation and Ableton Live together, Ms.Pinky and the bridge have completely opposite uses.

The bridge lets you control an entire sets transport control with a record, so in effect treating the whole set as one record in Serato, while also being able to fire/stop clips in Serato. Or capture serato performances and open in Ableton. Ms.Pinky on the other hand lets you use a single track in Ableton as a record. The vinyl sends a signal to an audio plug-in that holds the samples to be manipulated. The great thing about this is that it works perfect for a scenario where you have a live set and want to scratch certain samples in it, and be able to save that setup. Before you had to remeber what record to throw on and route your mixer into Ableton. now you can actually save the samples within the set in Ableton. Also, if you use the Ableton crossfader, you can actually edit your cuts.
can I use Ms. Pinky with a MIDI jog wheel ala the VCI-100 or something like the EKS-OTUS?

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Re: The Bridge versus MsPinky

Post by Trypset » Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:20 pm

Not sure about that one, hitup the pinky forums at

http://www.mspinky.com/phpBB2/index.php ... a6d0f666b0
and heres a topic related to your question

http://mspinky.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php ... 2861d07b1c

google FTW!
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Re: The Bridge versus MsPinky

Post by rbmonosylabik » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:07 pm

nuxnamon wrote:
rbmonosylabik wrote:It must be his setup. Setting Ms Pinky up can be tricky because it depends a lot on the input signal level, which may vary a lot from setup to setup. Mine took a while to get right, but now I can scratch almost anything I can think of, and anything I can't is more likely due to my lack of skill than Ms Pinky being unresponsive.
good to hear someone has had a good experience with it.. but were you using ms pinky as standalone or within Ableton using the pinky vst? I still don't know if it was his setup though.. signal level seemed fine and he had Ortofon Scratch concordes so I know it wasn't the needles.. at least I don't think.. maybe I'll go play with it again.. but i am really hoping this serato/ableton collabo will work.. I use both so it's free to me but if the vinyl emulation doesn't work out with that, then maybe I'll give Ms Pinky another try.. it's not bad for $100..

whatever happened to AMMOBOX? anyone remember that guy?
I use it both ways, Maxi-Patch AO for DJing and Live with the Pinky VST to record scratches. Tweaking Ms Pinky's responsiveness took time becauseit depends a lot on the signal levels, which vary depending on how you input your turntable into the software. One of the sliders sets the level where Ms Pinky recognizes as control signal, while the 2nd is the time it takes to cut offthe incoming signal when it goes below the treshold. The trick is to find a sweet spot for both so you have good response without sudden clicks and jumps due to noise in the signal.
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Re: The Bridge versus MsPinky

Post by Mudo » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:04 pm


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Re: The Bridge versus MsPinky

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:36 pm

Now that's the stuff! I gotta get the latest version of that...
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