So I could never go public, then?

debu_ · Post by **debu_** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:24 pm

I thought I read somewhere the bbc was making their archive available as a creative commons type deal, does anyone have info on this? Specifically, I'm using a sound byte I got off a radio 1 show (spoken word snippet) in a track right now, and am curious if this would be cool? I've mailed them and haven't heard back yet... D

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:49 pm

debu_ wrote:I thought I read somewhere the bbc was making their archive available as a creative commons type deal, does anyone have info on this? Specifically, I'm using a sound byte I got off a radio 1 show (spoken word snippet) in a track right now, and am curious if this would be cool? I've mailed them and haven't heard back yet... D

It's only for residents of the uk. And probably compressed in a crappy codec like .rm or .wmv

majestic · Post by **majestic** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:42 pm

Check out http://www.lumpen.com/events/illegal/art.html. Lots of interesting real-life examples, including De La Soul''s famous USD$1.7m fine for taking a few seconds from an obscure Turtles song.

Apparently I infringed copyright last week at my daughter's 4th birthday party. AOL Time Warner owns Happy Birthday To You.

supster · Post by **supster** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:43 pm

I think it depends on what kind of stuff you're doing, but more importantly whether you plan on making any money from it or not.

As long as what you're doing is not going to be heard on the radio or any other place where it's likely to get heard, the vast majority of the time nobody will notice or care, because the parties concerned will probably never hear it while your track has 'life'

This applies to most club music

But make sure you are not putting it up for sale in any way shape or form, and take every opportunity to label it as such

Thats my take on it anyway. Could be totally wrong and the RIAA could be knocking on my door any minute. But, highly unlikel.....

oh shit gotta run theres the doorbell, l8r .(wonder who this is?)

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 1:55 pm

debu_ wrote:I thought I read somewhere the bbc was making their archive available as a creative commons type deal

the BBC director general (Greg Dyke) was sacked last year after the BBC pointed out the obvious facts relating to the governments 'inteligence reports' for the invasion of Iraq. It was his idea to go CC with the archive.

I think what they will do now is try and earn money off it, IE they will take the project quiet and then re-launch as a paying concern.

clue:

http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/

sgingras · Post by **sgingras** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:07 pm

Fair Use (In Canada Anyways..) exists to protect people like artists who use copyrighted material for their own purposes of social critique or dialogue. So, conny if you want to come to Canada, you can use Arnold as much as you like. so long as it can be demonstratably shown that you are using the quote in such a manner as to make an artistic statement or as a critique of the original subject matter (and you're not making any money off it).
As artists, use of copyrighted material is pretty liberal I've found, and no one will really notice or care anyhow.

Besides, how great would it be to get sued by some huge corporation....BEST PUBLICITY EVER! nothing boosts a carreer like a little controversy....and if you can manage to make your case about freedom of expression and the right to critical dialogue, well you're in like one lucky bastard.
Off the top of my head here are some people who's carreers have benefited enormously from being sued: Al Franken, Two Live Crew, Jeff Wall, Jimmy Tingle, Jeff Koons, Robert Mapplethorpe (not really a copyright law case though) etc....

Being sued is a great way to project your carreer to the next level!
(I'm half joking here...no need to read me the riot act)

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:23 pm

And the funny thing is. We can blame it all on mickey mouse.....