DJ'ng in Live

[Deccan]

How much preperation does it involve just for beatmatching, i get the whole FX rack and all the hullabaloo you can do once tracks are synced. However, having my tracks lock in and stay together is(for some reason) the tricky part. Help please!! This is getting frustrating

P.S I am used to manipulating vinyl so the fact i have trust a computer to do the work for me is a whole step in itself.

[outershpongolia]

once you get warpin' down you'll be set.. I dont' DJ with live but my understanding is that once everything is warped you want have to worry about "beat matching" everything will already be "matched" you'll just be mixing tracks that are already in sync.

Just get good at warping and warp all the tracks you might use and you won't have to worry about that.

[Slightlydelic]

as above, just find the first beat of the tune zoom in and drop a warp marker right click and choose set position 1 here, then optionaly (i dont bother) right click again and choose warp from here, move along the wave form to the next position and repeat. i warp my tunes dropping a warp marker every 16 bars then ill play back wth the metronome and check is all well, sometimes ill be listening to a tune while im warping the next, if something goes wrong part way through the tune ill go in and have a look and warp some more, but this is rare.

ive only started doing this over this last week, but it doesnt take long to pick it up and get going quick, yes its tedious, yes the friggin metronome can be a bit much to take at times, but once your done, your done.

the beauty of doing this is that once you can forget the beat matching youll be looking for ways to manipulate tunes and have pleanty of time for it all.

to do it any other way misses the point of what live can do IMHO.

read this guide http://vinkalmann.com/index.php?option= ... 6&Itemid=2

watch this video. http://www.medwaystudios.com/Ableton-8- ... orial.html

thats all i needed and the tunes are lcking up nice and its not such a drag once you get into the work flow.

[ollyb303]

the friggin metronome can be a bit much to take at times

True. The sound is extremely irritating and seems to fatigue my ears quite quickly.

A good idea is to make a reference loop with a nice tight, punchy 4/4 kick drum in impulse and use that instead of using the metronome. Just make sure you always use the same loop to warp to and you're laughing.

[DorphonDalfir]

Set your first warp marker on the transient of your first beat. You can either then just input the correct BPM (if it's analyzed as 128.97 hit in 129) or you can just set that first warp marker, then scroll to the last beat of your track and shift it in time, thereby moving everything across.

I don't like using warp markers unless necessary and seem to do alright by just setting that first one.

[ollyb303]

I don't like using warp markers unless necessary and seem to do alright by just setting that first one.

All well and good if you're only using digital downloads of modern electronic music...

If, like me, you've recorded all of your vinyl collection into Live (that was fun!), you'll find that the slight pitch changes, wow and flutter, etc. necessitate far more warp markers (I sometimes need one every 4 bars!) - the same can be said of anything with a live drummer...

[Slightlydelic]

the friggin metronome can be a bit much to take at times

True. The sound is extremely irritating and seems to fatigue my ears quite quickly.

A good idea is to make a reference loop with a nice tight, punchy 4/4 kick drum in impulse and use that instead of using the metronome. Just make sure you always use the same loop to warp to and you're laughing.

thanks for the tip ill do that in future.

[outershpongolia]

the friggin metronome can be a bit much to take at times

True. The sound is extremely irritating and seems to fatigue my ears quite quickly.

A good idea is to make a reference loop with a nice tight, punchy 4/4 kick drum in impulse and use that instead of using the metronome. Just make sure you always use the same loop to warp to and you're laughing.

You can replace the sound of the Metronome and MetronomeUP files..

You'll find them in Program Files\Ableton Live x.x.x\Resources\Misc\Metronome, duonno about on the Mac but you should be able to find them.. They are hard to get right, it sounds a little wacky if you replace them with the wrong thing but you will probably find that anything you change it to gets blended into your mix and you can't distinguish it between the other sounds..

Just a thought.

EDIT: apparently in Live 8 there is a Metronome.adg file where you can drag it into a midi track and it has a rack of the metronome.. not sure if this was in previous versions but it'd be a lot easier to modify the sound and save it back to a couple .wav files.

[dentaku]

Nice, I'm going to change the metronome sounds to the ones that are used in Reason 4.
Today I made myelf a custom colour scheme but I couldn't figure out how to modify the metronome sound and those are 2 little things I was hoping to customize in Live for a while.

the friggin metronome can be a bit much to take at times

True. The sound is extremely irritating and seems to fatigue my ears quite quickly.

A good idea is to make a reference loop with a nice tight, punchy 4/4 kick drum in impulse and use that instead of using the metronome. Just make sure you always use the same loop to warp to and you're laughing.

You can replace the sound of the Metronome and MetronomeUP files..

You'll find them in Program Files\Ableton Live x.x.x\Resources\Misc\Metronome, duonno about on the Mac but you should be able to find them.. They are hard to get right, it sounds a little wacky if you replace them with the wrong thing but you will probably find that anything you change it to gets blended into your mix and you can't distinguish it between the other sounds..

Just a thought.

EDIT: apparently in Live 8 there is a Metronome.adg file where you can drag it into a midi track and it has a rack of the metronome.. not sure if this was in previous versions but it'd be a lot easier to modify the sound and save it back to a couple .wav files.

[Tarekith]

Head on over to AbletonLiveDJ.com, lots of us DJ types over there who can help you too.

[outershpongolia]

Nice, I'm going to change the metronome sounds to the ones that are used in Reason 4.
Today I made myelf a custom colour scheme but I couldn't figure out how to modify the metronome sound and those are 2 little things I was hoping to customize in Live for a while.

Knew how to do it on Windows, here's something about doing it on OS X.

http://digitalworship.wordpress.com/200 ... ome-sound/

It's a matter of replacing the sound files for MetronomeUp and Metronome, or something along those lines..