Keynote or State of the Union...

[distaudio]

I'm surprised alot of you didn't wake up when he picked his administration.

The U.S. goes through one of it's biggest ecomonic downfalls and he decides the best thing is to fill his office with the who's who of Wall Street.

Did you not all look these guys up to see where they came from?

The basis of your country is fuckin fantastic, your forefathers fought for something that was worthwhile and they set it up well. You have a Bill of Rights which is more than I can say for my country. All this guy and his buddy want to do is fuck it up for the globalist bankers to take even more control.

One thing you can take away from this is Black, White, yellow, purple or whatever colour they are. They are still the same politicians you had before and they are still waiting to fuck you in anyway that you will allow them to.

P.S. I'm not saying this as a flag waving American, cos I'm not even an American.

[infiniteB]

Obama is a lying, thieving, murdering criminal. He has broken every promise he made so far. Only an idiot would believe that conman at this point.

^ Folks, like 50% or so of America, we are dealing with an absolute (mmmkay, yeah, um, uh, sure) genius here, born way ahead of their time...

Republicans these days have no platform except that of "no, no, no", "hail to the right wing christian f@cks", and "tax less, govern less, and all will be fine"... we tried that and more for 8 years, 8 years that set us back 50... Obama is not perfect, but he is by far what the country needs at this time in history. Those who can't see that are blind.

[LoopStationZebra]

oh my.

Still in Iraq. ffs.

Still in Afghanistan and RAMPING UP, ffs.

Not ONE of the 'Executive privledge/power/orders' that everyone bitched about under Bush has been rescinded. omfg. Nor has there been calls by any Dems to do so. The only politician I can think of that has fervently called for limiting Presidential power back to what the founders intended is Ron Paul.

Again, not ONE power of the President has been taken away. O. M. F. G.

All this high and mighty talk about how waterboarding is torture and it and other extreme interogation methods have been banned; whilst at the same time Obama has authorized the continued use of drones - which, um, end up killing civilians in droves. Fail. Amazing. All this bitching about how detainees need their rights, but the only rights those that get hit by drones have is the right to get their atoms spread out over a large area.

Did I miss anything in terms of why this President is a piece of shit and that the keynote - hype and all - will actually deliver SOMETHING of what's promised?

[McQ714]

i'm glad his health bill seems to be down the drain. does anyone understand that they were going to make it illegal to not have health insurance? could you imagine being pulled over for a rolling stop and the cop asks you for your license, registration, car and health insurance? you can't tell someone what money they have to spend!

nobody has jobs right now and you're going to make it mandatory for them to spend money that they don't have on insurance they can't afford because they lost their job and unemployment doesn't provide them enough money to even pay their regular bills??? that's total bullshit!!! and i'm not even sure that was the worst part of it.

and why must politicians try to pass these complex legislative bills that will throw a bunch of random shit in with the bill even though it has nothing to do with the bill itself???

[ethios4]

Republicans these days have no platform except that of "no, no, no", "hail to the right wing christian f@cks", and "tax less, govern less, and all will be fine"... we tried that and more for 8 years, 8 years that set us back 50... Obama is not perfect, but he is by far what the country needs at this time in history. Those who can't see that are blind.

Hahahaa, hardly. Bush, and most Republicans in general, only pay lip service to smaller government. In fact, they love corporate socialism, and distrust the free market as much as Democrats.

Like distaudio said, look at who he put in his administration. That's it right there. He puts on a show of being angry at rewarding CEO's who caused the problems, but he packed his administration with people who really caused the problems!

What happened to ending the wars? What happened to no warrant-less wiretapping? What happened to no lobbyists? What happened to no conflicts-of-interest? What happened to defending the Constitution? Obama got into office and basically confirmed much of what Bush did, and made it permanent.

[LoopStationZebra]

Yes. By all means. Let's spend more fucking money that we don't have. Who cares if our children and grandchildren will be utterly destitute whilst sucking off the China teat because we've had to fund our entire national debt from their loans.

Let's get swept up in feel good social programs, one after another, without a care in the fucking world as to the fact that - um - without some sort of balanced budget sanity all of those programs will vanish within the first decade.

By all means. Lets.

Lets keep providing massive amounts of foreign aid around the world whilst our deficite goes unchecked.

Lets keep our military firmly in place around the world to the tune of billions per year in both shitholes and stable countries alike.

Lets.

Lets keep bailing out failing corporations and banks in a system that amounts to little more than corporate socialism.

Lets.

I'm all for it.

yee ha.

[ethios4]

Let's spend more fucking money that we don't have. Who cares if our children and grandchildren will be utterly destitute whilst sucking off the China teat because we've had to fund our entire national debt from their loans.

Let's get swept up in feel good social programs, one after another, without a care in the fucking world as to the fact that - um - without some sort of balanced budget sanity all of those programs will vanish within the first decade.
...
Lets keep providing massive amounts of foreign aid around the world whilst our deficite goes unchecked.

Lets keep our military firmly in place around the world to the tune of billions per year in both shitholes and stable countries alike.

...

Lets keep bailing out failing corporations and banks in a system that amounts to little more than corporate socialism.

All of this is only possible with a central bank fiat currency.

[LoopStationZebra]

Nearly all of these 'new' programs that Obama was talking about last night amount to little more than Gear Lust on the part of someone that works at Subway.

[stringtapper]

Obama is a lying, thieving, murdering criminal. He has broken every promise he made so far. Only an idiot would believe that conman at this point.

^ Folks, like 50% or so of America, we are dealing with an absolute (mmmkay, yeah, um, uh, sure) genius here, born way ahead of their time...

Republicans these days have no platform except that of "no, no, no", "hail to the right wing christian f@cks", and "tax less, govern less, and all will be fine"... we tried that and more for 8 years, 8 years that set us back 50... Obama is not perfect, but he is by far what the country needs at this time in history. Those who can't see that are blind.

I love this. If you ever read anything political that deva has commented on in the past you would know he's as far left as it gets. What he's saying is that Obama is too far right for him.

I love when the left/right merry-go-round throws a gear and people reveal how little they really think and just blindly follow empty suits. I actually respect deva for holding to his principles and saying the exact same things about Obama that he said about Bush. He's still an idealist and a moral crusader for his beliefs, and to me that's no different than the people on the far right, but he obviously doesn't follow the suits blindly and that confuses those who do.

[deva]

oh my.

Still in Iraq. ffs.

Still in Afghanistan and RAMPING UP, ffs.

Not ONE of the 'Executive privledge/power/orders' that everyone bitched about under Bush has been rescinded. omfg. Nor has there been calls by any Dems to do so. The only politician I can think of that has fervently called for limiting Presidential power back to what the founders intended is Ron Paul.

Again, not ONE power of the President has been taken away. O. M. F. G.

All this high and mighty talk about how waterboarding is torture and it and other extreme interogation methods have been banned; whilst at the same time Obama has authorized the continued use of drones - which, um, end up killing civilians in droves. Fail. Amazing. All this bitching about how detainees need their rights, but the only rights those that get hit by drones have is the right to get their atoms spread out over a large area.

Did I miss anything in terms of why this President is a piece of shit and that the keynote - hype and all - will actually deliver SOMETHING of what's promised?

let's see:

Obama currently has more soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan combined than Bush ever did.

Obama has the biggest military budget in history

Obama has not stopped torture or extraordinary renditions

The Obama administration outright sanctions assassinations of US citizens

The Obama administration defends indefinite detention

Obama escalated attacks in Pakistan (a war crime under the geneva conventions)

Obama is escalating military threats to countries in Latin America using its ally Colombia (the worst country in the region for human/labor rights)

Obama has given away trillions of dollars of citizens money to wall street

Obama has crafted a health bill that will force every citizen to buy healthcare without any price checks. You have to buy and the company can charge whatever they want. It is the CEO's wet dream.

Obama is still propagating the absurd comedy called the 'War on Terrorism' as justification for violating the rights of people all over the world, including killing whoever he wants.

There is more, but that should suffice

[LoopStationZebra]

deva, I'm loving you more and more each post. lol.

I may have to start following you blindly.

[LoopStationZebra]

Now, cue douchebag X, Y, or Z who's going to chime in with either 'But hey, at least he's better than Bush' or 'Give the guy a chance' or 'Give the guy a break' or '....

[deva]

Obama is a lying, thieving, murdering criminal. He has broken every promise he made so far. Only an idiot would believe that conman at this point.

Obama is not perfect, but he is by far what the country needs at this time in history. Those who can't see that are blind.

That is nothing but propaganda talking. Let's talk some facts:

In 2005, Obama joined Republicans in passing a law dubiously called the Class Action Fairness Act (CAFA). By contrast, Senators Clinton, Edwards and Kerry joined 23 others to vote against CAFA, noting the "reform" was a thinly-veiled "special interest extravaganza" that favored banking, creditors and other corporate interests.

Obama voted against a cap on credit card interest rates.

In November 2007, Obama came out against a bill that would have reformed the notorious Mining Law of 1872.

When actually given an opportunity to protect workers from unfair trade agreements, Obama cast the deciding vote against an amendment to a September 2005 Commerce Appropriations Bill, proposed by North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan, that would have prohibited US trade negotiators from weakening US laws that provide safeguards from unfair foreign trade practices. The bill would have been a vital tool to combat the outsourcing of jobs to foreign workers and would have ended a common corporate practice known as "pole-vaulting" over regulations, which allows companies doing foreign business to avoid "right to organize," "minimum wage," and other worker protections.

On September 29, 2006, Obama joined Republicans in voting to build 700 miles of double fencing on the Mexican border (The Secure Fence Act of 2006)

Obama acknowledges the disproportionate impact the death penalty has on blacks, but still supports it and wants to expand it

Obama promised to hold the telecoms accountable for illegal spying on US citizens, then voted to give them immunity.

Obama has facilitated the greatest theft in human history as Wall Street has robbed the country blind.

Obama has more soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan than Bush ever did... and bigger military budgets too. At a time when the economy is in serious trouble that is insanity.


The list goes on. All along the way Obama has sided with big money/corporate power over the interests of the country and its people. Try offering a factual rebuttal instead of wishful thinking.

[OvertoneZero]

state of the union. wish every President had the balls to say 1/100th of what he said. Obama was dead on. crazy how anyone (citizens, politicians) can't see that...

Yeah.. must be a lot of crazy people out there...

[deva]

deva, I'm loving you more and more each post. lol.

I may have to start following you blindly.

lol...
too much of that goin round already!!