question about multiple remote midi controllers

illsub1 · Post by **illsub1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:23 pm

hey I was wondering the best way to allow my whole midi rig to remote control live. For live shows I want to connect my Microkontrol, UC33, Behringer FC1010, and maybe a nord lead. Live only allows 2 control devices. In the studio I want to additionally utilize my motormix and 88 key controller. I can use all as inputs for midi channels just not remote control. Any ideas would be much appreciated!!

Peace

nunrgguy · Post by **nunrgguy** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:37 pm

How you do it is going to depend on what platform you're on - PC or Mac. PC You're going to have to use a combination of something like MIDI Yoke along with another program such as Max or PD (or others) to process and route your MIDI - it depends on how complicated/simple your routing is going to be

illsub1 · Post by **illsub1** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:48 pm

I'm on a pc, What's PD? are there any free options?

nunrgguy · Post by **nunrgguy** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:24 pm

Pure data

http://www.puredata.org/

is like a free version of Max/MSP. Works similar - it's like a visual programming language where you construct your programs by plugging blocks together ala modular systems like Reaktor. The learning curve is pretty steep mind you.

c8bit42 · Post by **c8bit42** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:35 am

I found a workaround for this, but it will eat up 1 midi in port and 1 midi out port. simply create a monitored midi track for each device that you have input to live, and route them all to a single midi output. use a midi cable to loop back into another midi input, and use this midi input as your remote control device. i have a uc 16, 2 radium 49s, a microkontrol, and a keystation 49 all acting as remotes for ableton using this method. to keep the controllers from overlapping, I output each one to a different midi channel, and then set up Live's midi controls accordingly. this method can also be used to "automate" parameters by using midi tracks with controls sequenced out.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:24 am

c8bit42: That's a simple, yet brilliant idea! OMG, why on earth didn't I think of that?
Thanks.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:18 pm

yes, that is definitely a keeper!

Like someone said a couple of weeks ago,

"I wish I had thought of that! Actually, I just wish i thought of things..."

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:25 pm

oh, and remember that using a virtual midi cable allows you to do this without looping back a physical cable to the interface. This approach still has all the cool functionality, but gets rid of the clumsiness.

c8bit42 · Post by **c8bit42** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:39 pm

unfortunately i spent entirely too much time thinkng about this... it felt like one of those I lost my keys and they were in my pocket the whole time moments.