iPad - potential Jazzmutant Lemur killer?

[Tone Deft]

it is absolutely not a new type of device, it's an 'internet appliance' a term that's been used for years. it is an evolution in internet appliances but this kind of device is not new.

ignore the touch screen being new (which it isn't), boxes like this have been around for decades, some of us might remember 'dumb terminals', this is the latest version of those. dumb terminals were usually 'green screen' computers that were little more than a keyboard built into a monitor that could send and receive text over a network, nothing more. in my experience they they were typically connected to Linux servers, you'd use the to check e-mail and read news, nothing more. very handy, very inexpensive devices.

something else that hasn't been talked about is cloud computing. you can take a relatively weak box like the iPad (or iPhone or whatever) and use its internet connection to use servers on the web to crunch numbers, an internet appliance can just be a multimedia portal for using other computes.

[humnumb]

It is a new category of device for Apple, as explained in the keynote. It represents a new market and platform for them built on the iPhone OS (based on OS X) and the proven market of iPhone apps. There will be a new category of apps written exclusively for the iPad to take advantage of the processor and screen size.

[The Northern Contingent]

Maybe. But I can't see why, for example, Apple couldn't allow people to decide for themselves whether to have multitasking to save battery life (just include an option in settings to have this switched on and off. How difficult is that?), or why they would make a device capable of hi-def images when you can't get the picture bigger than a few inches. Why no USB for Christ's sake - even one????

To me this smacks of the oldest technology developer's swindle in the world. And I hate saying this about a company that I defend to the hilt most times. Ah well, its not worth getting annoyed about. I don't have to buy it and there are far more important things in life to rage incoherently about.

[delicioso]

Maybe. But I can't see why, for example, Apple couldn't allow people to decide for themselves whether to have multitasking to save battery life (just include an option in settings to have this switched on and off. How difficult is that?), or why they would make a device capable of hi-def images when you can't get the picture bigger than a few inches. Why no USB for Christ's sake - even one????

To me this smacks of the oldest technology developer's swindle in the world. And I hate saying this about a company that I defend to the hilt most times. Ah well, its not worth getting annoyed about. I don't have to buy it and there are far more important things in life to rage incoherently about.

I just don't see what you're getting at. We all know Apple like to do things its own way in its own wisdom. I think the multitasking has more to do with the processor than battery but that's just my assumption. We don't really know why. I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to "get a picture bigger than a few inches" as that doesn't make any sense to me. As for no regular USB port, they probably have good reasons that we don't know about. It seems like one should be able to use all sorts of usb devices with it with the right cables. Apples does like to have control of both hardware and software which results in the type of quality people have come to expect from their products. I just don't see how any of this is "the oldest technology developer's swindle in the world."

[loydb]

Hater's job is to hate!

[zalo]

Killer might be too strong of a word. The Lemur has pressure sensitivity, a fantastic editor, and a mature platform over the iPad.
It also communicates via a network cable, so there's higher bandwidth for two-way feedback.

most of what you said is wrong

the lemur is not pressure sensitive, it has a sensitivity filter, but you cant make a pad that is velocity sensitive

the editor is a joke, everything must be done individually, there is no way to mass edit a group of objects besides color and position, many things are left to menu diving

what do you mean buy mature platform? old? the hardware has gone through one "minor" upgrade(bug fix) and the software is on V2.0.2, automap is on version 3.4 now?

the lemur has a 100base-t ethernet interface, which gives a theoretical max bandwidth of 100mb/s, wireless-n has a theoretical max bandwidth of 600mb/s

i love my lemur, but now im hoping i can sell it for enough to get 2 ipads ::crosses fingers::

[Tone Deft]

Maybe. But I can't see why, for example, Apple couldn't allow people to decide for themselves whether to have multitasking to save battery life (just include an option in settings to have this switched on and off. How difficult is that?), or why they would make a device capable of hi-def images when you can't get the picture bigger than a few inches. Why no USB for Christ's sake - even one????

To me this smacks of the oldest technology developer's swindle in the world. And I hate saying this about a company that I defend to the hilt most times. Ah well, its not worth getting annoyed about. I don't have to buy it and there are far more important things in life to rage incoherently about.

I just don't see what you're getting at. We all know Apple like to do things its own way in its own wisdom. I think the multitasking has more to do with the processor than battery but that's just my assumption. We don't really know why. I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to "get a picture bigger than a few inches" as that doesn't make any sense to me. As for no regular USB port, they probably have good reasons that we don't know about. It seems like one should be able to use all sorts of usb devices with it with the right cables. Apples does like to have control of both hardware and software which results in the type of quality people have come to expect from their products. I just don't see how any of this is "the oldest technology developer's swindle in the world."

multitasking is limited because of battery life.

there is USB it's the same USB setup as the iPhone.

this has been discussed in other iFad threads. it's lame enough there are multuple iFad thread, please read up on them to catch up.

is this horse dead yet?

+1 zalo, good luck with the sale!

[RajahP]

Bring it on.. Not just the Lumar... but a whole lot of other tools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERe3wn8dGA

[outershpongolia]

iPhone apps run on the iPad and can be stretched to full screen so TouchOSC will work right away. It would be really nice if someone developed a way to transmit midi straight from the iPad via USB because I would rather just plug in then have to setup a wireless network.

Hell yes.. I can't wait to at least try out making some templates and seeing if it would be worth it.

[pistachio nuts]

It actually does have usb and other connectors via dock thing. Dont have time to drag it up. Its going to be totally amazing - people - creativity - product= $
Nah its gonna tank, a bizzilion applications already for it.

[RajahP]

It seems like the Ipad will also be a Monome killer.
Seem like if one can write programs for the Iphone, it won't be long before we will see programs even before the release of the Ipad..

[Tone Deft]

as if the APC, Launch Pad and Livid Ohm haven't been picking over the bones of the monome for a year now.

iPhone apps are compatible with the iPad. this has already been discussed.

[delicioso]

ignore the touch screen being new (which it isn't), boxes like this have been around for decades, some of us might remember 'dumb terminals', this is the latest version of those. dumb terminals were usually 'green screen' computers that were little more than a keyboard built into a monitor that could send and receive text over a network, nothing more. in my experience they they were typically connected to Linux servers, you'd use the to check e-mail and read news, nothing more. very handy, very inexpensive devices.

Yeah the technology itself is definitely not new but I think the way Apple does things will make all the difference. I'm actually getting more excited about the use of iPad as a "dumb terminal" as it's dawning on me what that actually means. An iPad with already existing VNC apps for the iphone means all the "full blown" apps like Live can be used inside iPad itself wirelessly from anywhere. With Apple's consumer prices, consumer volumes and economies of scale, the iPad could succeed where other thin client solutions failed to get traction. A thin client device isn't very useful for anything else after the days work shift is over. (It can't even fart!) With the iPad, your VNC/RDP viewing app is one of 140k other possibilities.

[RajahP]

Seems like the graphics would be more stunning on the Ipad..
So that's the end of Lemur trademarked 'cartoon' type gui.