Maschine and Ableton users- what kind of fun are you having?

[delicioso]

(and thinking that when it was released, I just thought "what's this new crap??? well, they can't compete with any existing product such as live or mpc's...

Yeah, I did the same thing when I first saw it when it was introduced. But then I actually watched the NI videos and read up on the specs and realized it was exactly what I had been waiting for. It's too bad a lot of people still dismiss it as a "overpriced midi controller", a "usb dongle" or compare it to some software-only drum machine. People just think "but a mpc doesn't need to be attached to a computer" or can't get beyond the usual software made for computer keyboard and mouse matched with a generic midi controller paradigm. It really goes to show that Maschine is a truly innovative concept and a game changer that needed to be done but had never been done before so people don't expect how kickass it really is.

[supamonsta]

hi!

I'm soon to buy a live 7 + drum machines and operator licence,

did you guys managed to use EASILY the ableton drum machines with the maschine???

is it easy to have the maschine controller automatically mapping the pads to ableton drum machines???

cheers

[Ed Lektron]

It's a bit of a headf*ck but this post explains one way to do it:

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... hp?t=85217

Not long now til 1.5!!!

[Peripatetic]

I caved and bought Maschine.

It'll be here Monday.

I basically can't wait.

[continuous]

Really excited for this update! I'm so stoked they included the Grain Effect!!! They've also dropped a hint that there's gonna be like a gig worth of new library material that will be included with the update. Hands down my fav piece of gear (besides lappy).

[delicioso]

It's a bit of a headf*ck but this post explains one way to do it:

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... hp?t=85217

Actually, this one by fragmented is the best Live template to use especially for its Drum Rack implementation:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... stcount=35

I'm using it over all the other existing Live templates for Maschine. By clicking the arrow buttons next to the left screen, the page goes from the 8 buttons being arm and knobs being volume, to the 8 buttons choosing 8 banks and knobs being 8 macro knobs. There's also send a and b. Full transport plus the loop button (which on my controller does say LOOP but newer controllers will say RESTART) and the Group A pads always being automapped to whatever 16 Drum Rack pads that are in focus for those times you want velocity sensitivity with your Drum Rack makes Maschine the perfect companion next to my Launchpad.

[JBlongz]

I bought Maschine the day it released and sold it a month later. The only real benefit that I got was its sounds, Which I still have from the installation. The hardware was sturdy and concept was great. Its interoperability was an issue. I couldn't get it to do what I wanted in Live. The software at that time didn't even read my sustain pedal! Its seems that Native Instruments was trying to force their sequencer on everyone. I just wanted it to be sample/instrument bank to be used by ableton's sequencer and my MPD32. So I sold it and used the samples to create Sampler, DrumRack, and Battery presets.

Here's my conclusion:

Hardware 8/10
Software 3/10
Sounds 9/10

[glitchrock-buddha]

I bought Maschine the day it released and sold it a month later. The only real benefit that I got was its sounds, Which I still have from the installation. The hardware was sturdy and concept was great. Its interoperability was an issue. I couldn't get it to do what I wanted in Live. The software at that time didn't even read my sustain pedal! Its seems that Native Instruments was trying to force their sequencer on everyone. I just wanted it to be sample/instrument bank to be used by ableton's sequencer and my MPD32. So I sold it and used the samples to create Sampler, DrumRack, and Battery presets.

Here's my conclusion:

Hardware 8/10
Software 3/10
Sounds 9/10

I bought a desktop computer with a 30 inch screen, and sold it month later. Only benefit was that I got a new keyboard, which I kept after I sold the computer. It was a great computer, but I wanted to take it on the road, use it on planes and buses, but could never get it to fit anywhere very easily and I didn't always have a power supply handy. I just wanted to use it as a portable computer, but it didn't do what I wanted. So I sold and bought a laptop, like I fucking should have because that's what I wanted.

Here's my conclusion:

Hardware 8/10
Portability 3/10
Sounds 9/10




Sorry to poke fun, but your rating is based on the fact that you bought something wanting it to be something different. Would you rate a Ferrari a 3/10 when you wanted a dirt bike because the ferrari didn't maneuver well in the trails in the forest? Seriously.

Cool that you're using a Sample Library you're no longer licensed to use though...

[delicioso]

[JBlongz]

Would you rate a Ferrari a 3/10 when you wanted a dirt bike because the ferrari didn't maneuver well in the trails in the forest? Seriously.

Well I actually took Maschine for what it was. The concept was great and a potential game changer. But there was a lot of misleading advertising regarding features that didn't exist (yet). I really favored maschine's hardware integration, but the sequencer programming was buggy and incomplete. I don't have patience when I'm working on paid-projects.

As for the licensing yap: I own whatever production I make with a software, whether still owned it or not. While I owned it, I dumped all the samples into Live (by category), through some outboard gear, and back in to give it that MPC punchiness then "slice to midi track" using a custom template i made (gotta love that manual), added some other tracks for the sake of "variant", rendered and copyright. So technically, I sampled my own works. And yes...I've been through this before with Motu and their BPM software, and my lawyer is a genius.. So blah.

[starving student]

you will buy maschine again simply because you got it the day it came out and if you've kept up with it's development you'd know that
they've already updated it to an entirely different machine and the update that they're going to drop next week is going to go twice further, I think when they first made maschine they were just getting their feet wet and didn't really know where they were going with it but my oh my Ni, whom I've previously loathed in a former life absolutely know where they are going with this now due to the roadmap they've taken it upon themselves to follow authored by their user base, and all of these updates have been free, if their free updates are this substantial I'd hate to see what we could get them to do for $20, I shudder at the thought......

at this point in maschines development it wouldn't matter to me if it didn't come with any samples at all, they are of no consequence

[glitchrock-buddha]

Starving Student is right, it's really changed since it first came out and the 1.5 update will take away just about every limitation it has had to date. Pretty much every little thing left that makes me think "I wish it did this or that" has been covered in the coming update.

[cmreal04]

Well I finally pulled the trigger and bought maschine the other day, will be here Monday.

CM

[koranek]

Less fun for me...I'm on a PPC and the next release will be Intel only. I keep hearing about all of the things I'll be missing.

I'm sure someone is going to tell me I need to get a new Mac, but a recent survey on Mac OSX Audio indicated that 40% of Mac musicians are still on a PPC.

I guess we're too small of a segment to care about. Thankfully, Ableton, U-he, and Camel are still releasing UBs.

[starving student]

I simply cannot wait anymore for the update