Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by davepermen » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:57 pm

hm no. you just said it's not logical.

and i haven't said he doesn't have the right to post the issue again, that was re.mark. i just tried to explain his point. there is a subforum for that. so it would make sense to post in there. you just say "no it makes no sense". i ask, why? (and i think it's fine to repost again and again that we want curves and such. even while it most likely won't change a thing)
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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by dum » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:02 pm

^^^ more of it.


as well as making shit up as he goes along to keep the argument going, he also tends to re-evaluate his previous contributions to bring them in-line with whatever stance he is currently adopting.
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Post by davepermen » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:05 pm

dum wrote:^^^ more of it.


as well as making shit up as he goes along to keep the argument going, he also tends to re-evaluate his previous contributions to bring them in-line with whatever stance he is currently adopting.
just answer the question instead of such stuff. be useful.
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Post by dum » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:05 pm

^^^ see ?
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Post by davepermen » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:08 pm

look at yourself. you reply the same crap all the time for a lot of posts now.

just reply, why it's illogical to post into the categories the forum is set up with. give a reason. i have read the thread and not found one yet.
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Post by dum » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:26 pm

davepermen wrote:look at yourself. you reply the same crap all the time for a lot of posts now.

just reply, why it's illogical to post into the categories the forum is set up with. give a reason. i have read the thread and not found one yet.
^^^ inferring that's what I said. Lying, effectively. Amateur bullshittery, but you are well on your way to becoming a master bullshit artist.



anyways even though this is your MO, these kind of circle-jerk debates, and I should know better....but whatever - there's a clear answer here and I can't see how you'd manage to spin more masturbatory bullshit out of it. So I'll bite your bait.

here's what I said:

dum wrote:
davepermen wrote:
Yes, it was a remark. kind of spiteful, but more to the point it lacked sense & logic. it's an age old feature request so posting YET ANOTHER bezier curves thread in the feature request forum is like pissing in the sea, and the general forum is the RIGHT forum for live discussion. Telling tweaking knobs this is the wrong forum is just straight up bullshit.
it lacked logic to note that a feature request would fit into the feature request forum? how much does one need to think to understand that logic?
Yes, re.mark noted it. And I replied succinctly with my answer - explaining why being so militant about where this feature request should be DISCUSSED is senseless and illogical.
key words & phrases here are:
"why being so militant about where this feature request should be DISCUSSED is senseless and illogical."

I thought I could reduce it further to make it simpler, but I couldn't. It is actually that simple. how's about.... MILITANT WHERE REQUEST DISCUSSED
it's illogical, and senseless to be so MILITANT about where a feature request is DISCUSSED, because well...even though I've fuckin already stated this a few times by now, because [a] it's a request that's been made 1,000,000 times already in the feature request forum since as far back as it was friggin conceived in the first place. because the general forum is a place to DISCUSS ableton related issues. You can make the request in the appropriate forum (as i said, been done a million times already) AND you can discuss it in here.

where - please, explain it to me - where do you find difficulty in understanding this ?


Besides you're rigid outlook on this is bogus because it's neither realistic in terms of exposure, and because you're being blatantly hypocritical given your propensity to talk the most inane shit in threads here that should be in the lounge.


And to finish, initially I said re.marks comment LACKED sense & logic. It developed from there as you twisted things to suit yourself.
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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by davepermen » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:27 pm

okay. got your point.

you say "a feature request" put into the "feature request forum" makes it unseen. putting it into general might rise awareness.

that's true.

but re.marks statement didn't lack logic. it makes sense to put posts into the forum section of the same topic category. that's what the categories are for.
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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by dum » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:33 pm

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Post by davepermen » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:38 pm

what? i gave you right. now be happy, dude!

the reason why you and re.mark came to different conclusions where these:

you thought, the op posted in here with the plan to make ableton more aware of that issue, knowing it should belong into "feature request", but would have been unheard in there.

re.mark thought, the op posted in here without knowing there is a dedicated forum for such requests.

and no one of you knows which one is the reason he posted into general. he might knew about feature request, but thought here he can reach more people that could care about it. or he didn't knew, and would have posted it over there if he would have realised that this forum exists.

and both are valid, both make sense.

and you still will not be happy, i guess :)
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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by dum » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:44 pm

Maybe you're not a bullshit artist, maybe you're just clinically retarded ?

Anyway you don't seem to clearly understand the meaning of certain relatively basic english words . And that's ok, really.
Your english is better then my swahili...or whatever it is you money laundering cowards speak over there in the nazi gold mines.

:lol:
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Post by davepermen » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:46 pm

dum wrote:Maybe you're not a bullshit artist, maybe you're just clinically retarded ?

Anyway you don't seem to clearly understand the meaning of certain relatively basic english words . And that's ok, really.
Your english is better then my swahili...or whatever it is you money laundering cowards speak over there in the nazi gold mines.

:lol:
explain what i didn't understood. instead of attacking mindlessly, making you look like a dork.
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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by Tweaking Knobs » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:48 pm

thank god we all agree we need bezier curves :wink:

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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by dum » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:51 pm

@dave
attacking ? here's a word for you : facetious look it up, maybe there is no such word in the germanic languages ... makes sense. but i digress..

anyway, that wasn't an attack...that my friend was me signing out of another one of your masturbation vortexes...


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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by davepermen » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:54 pm

it exists in german, translated it trough leo. but i didn't knew it before, and would have guessed wrong.

anyways, stuff like "Maybe you're not a bullshit artist, maybe you're just clinically retarded ?", i can't see this as something humorous. only quite primitive, offending and attacking.
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Re: Ableton 9: Bezier curves ,better editing & visual refernce

Post by dum » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:57 pm

oh no. The rhetorical question was sincere.

I was being facetious about the whole swahili/money laundering/cowards/nazigoldmine bit =)
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