How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

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How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by felipescalador12 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:30 pm

just want to know how you people use it..

I personally for live use..I use it for djing 1-4 chanels have complete songs in key order & channel 5 have drum loops,6 acapellas,7 have sound fx, and also sometimes play a midi keyboard

how do you use it?

I mean like..
you playback your song without the synth part and play the synth part live??
process drums?? to sound electronic while playing live?? (like depeche mode)
you dj?? how you dj with ableton?
etc..
etc...

so how you do it??
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Re: How do you use Ableton "live"

Post by jpga » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:19 am

Drumrack,Sampler,Operator,and the fx´s

http://www.beatportal.com/remix/detail/ ... yer-remix/

spin it if you like it!

al the best,,

Jp

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Re: How do you use Ableton "live"

Post by Moody » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:32 am

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Re: How do you use Ableton "live"

Post by Pitch Black » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:45 am

Hey, pimping my youtube video again... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1siG6_Pd-Mg
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Re: How do you use Ableton "live"

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:42 am

Pitch Black wrote:Hey, pimping my youtube video again... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1siG6_Pd-Mg
That's the bee's knees right there. Love that video. It was a big inspiration in my current set up actually.

My setup is something along the same lines, but a little more compact. It revolves around an APC40, NI Maschine, NI Kore and any other triggering device like a keyboard. I Limit myself to 8 tracks. One of which is Maschine so it can do lots of drums on that track. Then I'll have a track for sound effects, hits, ambiances and other one-shots that I trigger manually. One for Bass, one for pads, two for leads and two for other instruments. Many of these tracks will use Kore or racks to layer more than one plug-in instrument. Maschine hardware takes care of Maschine software, APC40 for mixing, and I use the Kore controller primarily for send effect parameters which are is Kore effect device. It's a beauty set up that lets me record and loop on the fly and the composition is essentially the same as the performance.
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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by swishniak » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:07 pm

- to play back sequences / loops
- to play software instruments
- as an improvisation tool (playing / processing / looping)

its funny, i realized i use live as a setlist alot of the time (if im playing drums on most of the songs, and laptop on some).

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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by hennessey » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:32 pm

I have one long set. 5 tracks (DrumRack,Upright Bass,Zebra,Zebra,samples). I use program changes for the Zebra tracks to change patches as I go thru the set. I play with a live drummer and I play keys (TruePianos/VB3/ and Electric) all thru a macbook. I trigger next scene and manipulate samples/sounds with a nanoKontrol. Is that what you mean?

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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by dinaiz » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:48 pm

@pitchblack : your video and music are just awesome. Very instructive as well. good job man ! :-D
@glitchrock-buddha : nice tips as well, thanks :-D

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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by jimi_k » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:02 pm

Pitchblack are f**kn awesome
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Re: How do you use Ableton "live"

Post by cacti » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:34 am

Pitch Black wrote:Hey, pimping my youtube video again... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1siG6_Pd-Mg
so you have one song setup to your idi controller, how do you switch to the next song? I assume the presets stay the same? I forget which clip trigger mode lets you start and stop the clip, i guess thats what youre using right?

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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by Pitch Black » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:00 am

@glitchrock, dinaiz, jimi_k: Cheers! Glad you found it useful!

@cacti: We have one preset (patch) for each song in the MIDI keyboards. Each patch transmits on a different MIDI channel, and all the clips and instrument/plugin parameters for that song receive on that channel. The exception to this is the Drehbank "mixer" which doesn't have presets and always transmits on MIDI ch1 throughout the whole set. The clips being triggered as parts of Scenes, from the ReMote 25 buttons, are mostly set to "Trigger" launch mode. For the live playing clips under the keys, they are either set to "Gate" or "Toggle" depending on how I want to play them. Also, not shown in this vid, I have Simpler and Sampler instruments for some songs that are played on the keyboards.

There's a 1 hour video here of Tom COSM and us demo'ing our live setups that goes into much greater detail if you're interested.
http://vimeo.com/6281034

cheers
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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by Dombleton » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:31 pm

On stage we have everything plugged into Live.

I have my guitar, microkorg, theremin and Stylophone in one input and my brother has his Keytar on the other.
I also have a pedal that switches my guitar between Live and my guitar amp

Then we build up the song adding a Guitar loop & bass line etc.. using a $5 foot pedal made out of an old Qwerty keyboard.
and some cut up dvds for pedals.

My brother plays synth lines & solos on his keytar (sometimes with midi sometimes the keytar itself) and I sing vocoder with my microkorg.

I even just managed to set up some spare buttons on my brothers keytar to switch between effects/instruments.

Its working great at the moment.

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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by jimi_k » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:14 am

Really great and informative video thanks "pitchblack"!, hey is about time you guys toured nz ? we are starving for some good tunes down here in the swampy old manuwatu!
macbook 1st gen unibody 2ghz/4gb 10.5.8
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espresso coffee machine;)

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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by Pitch Black » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:31 am

Hey jimi, as it happens we're playing a free outdoor gig in New Plymouth on Sat 27th. OK technically its Taranaki, not the Manawatu, but.... :) and The Trons are supporting!!
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Details here: http://www.govettbrewster.com/Events/Wh ... +pARTy.htm

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Re: How do you use Ableton live in a live situation?

Post by flippo » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:49 am

Hey thanks for the Vid PB.


Its not too dissimilar to how I am heading in a way. Although from your breif midi description I think it would be routed in a very different way.

Regards to having two machines, what was the reason for that? Had you tried with one and it was not stable?

What is the CPU running at with the workload split in half like that?

:)
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