Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Discuss anything related to audio or music production.
Angstrom
Posts: 14988
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:22 pm
Contact:

Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by Angstrom » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:52 pm

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/0 ... _clar.html

you'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll laugh again.
you'll feel like you just injected raw gearlust into your eyeball and instantly obtained grade9 G.A.S from watching this video.

you have been warned.

ethios4
Posts: 5377
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:28 am

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by ethios4 » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:03 pm

Drool. That's an analog museum!

sublimelobc
Posts: 413
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:30 pm
Location: St George, Utah
Contact:

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by sublimelobc » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:09 pm

Thanks for sharing that!

aqua_tek
Posts: 2569
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:48 pm
Contact:

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by aqua_tek » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:44 pm

Image

Rave
Posts: 6153
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:26 am

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by Rave » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:22 am

8) Thanks for posting. I did fap.

Jarvisimon
Posts: 764
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:29 pm
Location: England

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by Jarvisimon » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:46 am

he's a very intelligent bloke is Vince Clarke, however, with a few exceptions, Erasure made some pretty awful music, at least to my ears.

leedsquietman
Posts: 6659
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:56 am
Location: greater toronto area

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by leedsquietman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:19 pm

Much of Vince Clarke's music is very simple, melody wise. Depeche Mode certainly evolved plenty after he left, whereas Yazoo/Yaz and Erasure still sound somewhat like Depeche Mode circa Speak And Spell IMO (music wise, if not vocally). In Erasure he cracked out the acoustic guitar a bit more while still retaining those dinky little synth melodies.

He plays to his strengths - he doesn't try to be Hans Zimmer. That works for some more than others, but he has always loved his analogue synths and been a music tech advocate - I remember seeing him on telly circa 1985 with his BBC Model B controlled MIDI sequencer. He also never followed the crowd, while people were grabbing Roland D50s and Korg M1s he was happy with his old analogue synths and stuff like the Casio CZ-1 and CZ-1000.

He also did a cool remix of the Happy Monday's 'Wrote For Luck' ...
http://soundcloud.com/umbriel-rising http://www.myspace.com/leedsquietmandemos Live 7.0.18 SUITE, Cubase 5.5.2], Soundforge 9, Dell XPS M1530, 2.2 Ghz C2D, 4GB, Vista Ult SP2, legit plugins a plenty, Alesis IO14.

ollyb303
Posts: 2666
Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:49 pm
Location: Bristol, UK
Contact:

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by ollyb303 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:17 pm

Awesome!!!!
.:O:B:1:.
ob1techno.com

arafel
Posts: 506
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:19 am
Location: Calgary, Canada

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by arafel » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:41 am

Thanks for the link..

Just what I needed...
2.8ghz Quad Mac, Live 9.77, Remote25, Maschine 1, Fa-66 optical link, Samson 65a. Dog hair.. lots.

beats me
Posts: 23319
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:39 pm

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by beats me » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:25 pm

As cool as that is I don't think I'd want to write music in that environment. He said he starts with guitar because messing with synths would be too much of a distraction and I can see why. A lot of us love messing with synths, even if it's just softsynths, and I think as a result the music comes out a little colder and less inspiring...doesn't really strike an emotional chord. I imagine it would be even worse running around in a room full of hardware.

alex.the.forge
Posts: 1424
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:29 am

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by alex.the.forge » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:57 pm

beats me wrote: He said he starts with guitar because messing with synths would be too much of a distraction and I can see why. ...
I think thre is an important lesson in that fro everyone....

beats me
Posts: 23319
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:39 pm

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by beats me » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:55 pm

alex.the.forge wrote:
beats me wrote: He said he starts with guitar because messing with synths would be too much of a distraction and I can see why. ...
I think thre is an important lesson in that fro everyone....
I'd love to hear the acoustic version of today's Electro House hits. :)

Angstrom
Posts: 14988
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:22 pm
Contact:

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by Angstrom » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:22 pm

I'm a little bit dubious about his preference for writing on an acoustic.

As was pointed out by leedsquietman his tunes are hardly complex sequences of highly intricate keychanges!
For example - I just checked the chords for "a little respect" and they are Cmaj, Gmaj, Emin, Fmaj. Now, erm - That's possibly the easiest set of chords to play on keys! link

I play guitar and keyboards both intolerably badly, but I find it much simpler to write on a keyboard because it's easy to see the related keys (what related chords are in the mode, etc) and where a keychange could be disguised or led to, simply by looking at the notes. On a keyboard you can see chord inversions as plain as day, and see how they can be modulated: such as an inverted Cmaj played G,C,E can be modulated to Emin G,F,E by simply moving one finger.

I have to wonder : is he really preferring writing on the guitar for musical reasons, or is he actually just happy chugging out simple barre chords before entering them into the ARP sequencer?
Barre Emaj shape, barre Amaj shape, up and down the fretboard ... that can get a guy pretty far.

beats me
Posts: 23319
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:39 pm

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by beats me » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:38 pm

Angstrom wrote:I'm a little bit dubious about his preference for writing on an acoustic.

As was pointed out by leedsquietman his tunes are hardly complex sequences of highly intricate keychanges!
For example - I just checked the chords for "a little respect" and they are Cmaj, Gmaj, Emin, Fmaj. Now, erm - That's possibly the easiest set of chords to play on keys! link

I play guitar and keyboards both intolerably badly, but I find it much simpler to write on a keyboard because it's easy to see the related keys (what related chords are in the mode, etc) and where a keychange could be disguised or led to, simply by looking at the notes. On a keyboard you can see chord inversions as plain as day, and see how they can be modulated: such as an inverted Cmaj played G,C,E can be modulated to Emin G,F,E by simply moving one finger.

I have to wonder : is he really preferring writing on the guitar for musical reasons, or is he actually just happy chugging out simple barre chords before entering them into the ARP sequencer?
Barre Emaj shape, barre Amaj shape, up and down the fretboard ... that can get a guy pretty far.
I don't think we're talking about compositional complexity in a song. I think it's more about coming up with songs that go somewhere other than computer loops and slight variations, especially if you're working with other musicians or a vocalist. It's just easier with that live jam factor to come up with different ideas. A computer isn't capable of guessing where the other band mates might go and instantly come up with variations on the fly based on that.

Angstrom
Posts: 14988
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:22 pm
Contact:

Re: Vince Clarke's Analogue Cabin (gearporn video)

Post by Angstrom » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:05 pm

Yeah, but why not jam on a keyboard?

Perhaps it's not about Jamming chords and melodies, but rather because inflections and intonations are easier to access on a guitar. Moving from a damped "chucka-chucka" to on open "skrang" is easy on guitar. No need to open the chucka-skrang menu option, assign to midi cc, troubleshoot controller latency, etc. Just move the fingers.
Synths still have a long way to go before they can match the immediate expressiveness of guitar, but if its down to writing melody and chords I choose keys every time.

Post Reply