$99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

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theophilus
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$99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:38 am

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Finally at the lowest $99 level. Hadn't seen it posted here, figure most people have heard of it elsewhere, but the first GB had some amazing sounding drums in it, so it's worth mentioning here too. It's actually a group buy, but already reached its lowest price; from here on, it's just how much extra you'll get over what's already in it. You can join here: http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=4181

If you need real drum sounds, this is a great deal to get in on. I was in the first GB, and some of the drum kits are larger than 1GB, and sound incredibly realistic (and I'm only playing through a nanopad right now). This one includes ~25 drum kits in total (so far), about 17gb total, 1000 midi grooves from Groove Monkey and Sonic Reality, + a bunch of impulse responses from famous studios to help you get the 'sound' of that studio on your own tracks. The kits are played in their own Impulse Player, which in turn becomes a part of Kontakt (either the free kontakt player, or a full kontakt version).

They've already added some extras... you get Impulse Player for free plus an extra multitrack kit, or if you already have impulse player you get 2 MT kits from a selection of 8. There will be more as the number joining grows.

To bring this back on topic a little bit for here... I also have Session Drums, and I got that Steven Slate audiomidi deal too. So how do they compare against each other? The slate drums are great for rock but really I think they are the least realistic. Session Drums, though it's pretty old now, actually holds up very well, with good variety, but I'd have to give the edge for sound to the sonic reality stuff. After playing with a few other drum libraries (this one, Slate, Addictive) I'm actually impressed with how good this ableton add-in sounds, though it doesn't quite have the range of the USD group buy. The first USD group buy had Ocean Way Drums and Drum Masters, and has some really lively and raw-sounding drums, with a wide variety.

I originally got into the first one, because I kept hearing that ableton built-in instruments were somewhat limited and I wanted to see what a 'real' drum library sounded like. And, at the time, it was pretty much the cheapest way to get anything real. Now there a couple reasonable choices (ezdrummer and slate have both appeared recently <$100), but this is still a much better deal IMHO. I just got into this really to learn more about programming drums... i've never really 'gotten' drums well. Now I'm excited enough about drums I want to get a real e-kit :)

if you need a reference when you sign up, you can use my nick: chroma. if you use a reference, both you and the person get 5 epointz, so it's worth putting someone down.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:16 am

Hey, if you use the first Group Buy, or you bought the steven slate specials last month, you might find these useful.
download from the post here at gearslutz (last post):
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-co ... tools.html

since i can't post them here and don't feel like bothering with a website for this. about 2 megs.

There are 3 presets, one for OWD/DM2 STm, one for OWD/DM2 MT, and one for SSD. Each one is an instrument rack for that drum type, where each channel in the plugin is routed to an external effect chain, so you can apply effects per channel etc. in live, as well as mix in the main window. Tested with live 8.1.1. Hope this saves someone some time.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:16 pm

i dunno, but I don't think so... I was a part of the first Group Buy. The drums from that one are quite incredible sounding, and cover a wide range of styles. Probably 22GB total including all the true multitrack kits. Dave Kerzner is very active online (they have a forum at KVR as Sonic Reality). And I haven't seen any increase in spam, for those who think that's why they are doing this (I have good spam filter anyways, so probably wouldn't notice, but they haven't sent more than a couple mails in that time either, mostly related to the first GB which I actually bought).

And... for this one, $99 is already as low as it can get. But after the first one got to the lowest price, they threw in lots of extra stuff - free toontrack ezplayer, extra multitrack kits, etc. So that's more the value of more people.

It may not be for you, but it is definitely real.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:48 am

OK, a couple of things. First, thank you to whoever put me as their referral! I appreciate it! You should also put your name down here, so other people can use your esoundz ID as a referral too, if you want.

Second, I created a few drum racks for both Steven Slate drums and the Sonic Reality STm and MT formats (in GM mode; i'll do IMap and VDrums soon) which you can use if you want. Can't attach here so I attached them to a post at gearslutz:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-co ... ost5185979

More information there, but this lets you use these drum kits as a drum rack, so they show up in the midi piano roll correctly, and you can mix them in the main window, as well as use your own VST effects etc. since they are regular chains. Let me know if you find any issues. Directions on how to use them are at the other thread.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:19 pm

One more time... finished the IMap drum racks. So now there are somewhat native drum racks for Steven Slate Drums, and all the Sonic Reality drum incarnations (GM and IMap, MT and STm). The Imap ones took forever - there are so many articulations! Grab them and read more here:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5188378-post6.html

Finally, that's all for me for while. I hope this helps someone. Thanks!

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:20 pm

I fixed the steven slate drum preset (wasn't all there) and added an SSD Drum Map. It's a midi rack, just drop it in ahead of the Kontakt, and it will fix your note names.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5195303-post7.html

I was working on trying to save Live presets that match each of the drum kits, so you can choose it from the live browser instead of in kontakt. Does anyone else think this would be useful? combined it's a lot more than 6 megs so I have to find another way to transfer it around.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:00 am

has anyone gotten a chance to try out the drum racks? just wondering if this was helpful to anyone. BTW, we're at around 350 now... think we are up to 3 bonus MT kits.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:37 pm

OK, I just finished making drum rack presets for all of the kits from the first OWD/DM2 group buy. That took a while.. there are on the order of 80 kits, if you include the hybrid kits! I hadn't gotten to play with all the hybrid kits, some of them are a good bit more finished than the 'raw' kits, if you like that. Right now the presets are just the kontakt patches inside drum racks, next step will be to back out the kontakt effects programming and reproduce them in drum racks, so it is easier to mix/match programming.

Some of them use the kontakt convolution reverb though, which of course Ableton doesn't have. I have liquidsonics reverberate and the free SIR1. I am planning to use reverberate, as it seems to use less CPU on my system, plus it can do more (modulate the reverb tails etc). If no one else says anything, I'm just going to do that :) If I remember, I'll create some patches without reverb and you can add your own convolution. Have to find a place to put all those up, it's a pretty big set.

This group buy is now pretty much at 400 people; so if you join you will either 3 MT Kits + infinite player, or 4 MT kits. Plus all the impulse responses and midi grooves. Pretty nice. Hopefully they'll start putting the kits up for download this week.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:44 pm

FYI, this group buy was extended until Friday (5pm IIRC), so you have a few extra days if you still want to get this.
Almost to 500... so almost to 5 extra MT kits or 4 + infinite player. At 500 they are supposed to throw in a pretty large
lot of impulse responses for rooms in famous studios as well...

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:54 pm

Phase 1 of the drumkits (15 drumkits + the 1000 groove monkey midi grooves) are now available for download, if you haven't seen the KVR post. Phase 2 (next 10 drum kits + the impulses) should be tomorrow, and the extra MT kits will be on Friday after it ends (because then we'll know exactly how many there are), just in case someone hasn't seen the KVR post.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by nebulae » Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:22 pm

I just bought in. Now I can sound exactly like 200+ other people.

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Re: $99 Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy

Post by theophilus » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:43 pm

heh... actually almost 550 now :) have you tried the bonzo hands kit yet? pretty wild.

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