Hi everyone,
I've literally started using MaxForLive today and am just starting to get my head around how it works. For one of my first patches I was hoping to write a utility a bit like 'Slice to Midi', but, instead of sliciing to a drum rack I want my gadget to create a new track and slice an audio clip into consecutive clips on that track. As part of this I want to set the follow actions for each clip so that every clip except the last one triggers the next clip in the sequence as it ends - the last one will then trigger the first clip on the track and that way you have a continuous loop that you can skip around by triggering the different clips in different orders. Anyway, the long and short of it is that I can't find a way to set a clip's follow action from M4l - is this possible?
Thanks in advance,
Mark.
Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
no idea but I don't see Follow Actions in the LOM.
you'd have more fun using the tapin~ and tapout~ objects.
you'd have more fun using the tapin~ and tapout~ objects.
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
Yes it is..... If you download my patch from max4live.com it's called isotonik, then open it to edit....
Theres a patched in there that's called follow action or something like that, within it you'll find how it monitors the playing position and then if it's one beat before the end it will send a bang...
What you do with that bang is up to you but i have three choices
1, Nothing
2, Play Again
3, Play Below
Other than that it's just a bit of maths to set up other follow actions but that was all i needed....
Cheers
D
Theres a patched in there that's called follow action or something like that, within it you'll find how it monitors the playing position and then if it's one beat before the end it will send a bang...
What you do with that bang is up to you but i have three choices
1, Nothing
2, Play Again
3, Play Below
Other than that it's just a bit of maths to set up other follow actions but that was all i needed....
Cheers
D
Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
thanks for that.
looking at the LOM I don't see a reference to Follow Actions, where should I have looked to find a clue how to work with Follow Actions?
just trying to teach myself how to fish.
thanks!
looking at the LOM I don't see a reference to Follow Actions, where should I have looked to find a clue how to work with Follow Actions?
just trying to teach myself how to fish.
thanks!
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
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drummingninja
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Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
I looked through the isotonik patch and I also can't isolate the part that is solely for playing the next clip. I love what you've done with isotonik though! It's awesome, but I would love to create a little patch that only makes live play the next clip.
Anyone with some more M4L experience, please do everyone on this forum the biggest favor of all time and make a little "play next clip" patch!
Anyone with some more M4L experience, please do everyone on this forum the biggest favor of all time and make a little "play next clip" patch!
Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
I'll try and pull it out of mine for you....
Now mine's got too big to be used as i wanted it to i may to pull it apart so you can build your own devices from it.... Not enough time though....
Cheers
D
Now mine's got too big to be used as i wanted it to i may to pull it apart so you can build your own devices from it.... Not enough time though....
Cheers
D
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drummingninja
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Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
I and the entire M4L community would actually bow down and worship you for this!
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monohusche
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Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
the isotonik device can't be downloaded from maxforlive.com, so can't check it out. But I assume that s4racen isn't manipulating the "real" follow actions of Live but rather emulating that behaviour in M4L.
It's not hard to observe the currently playing clip index and to trigger the next (last, first, random) clip after that. What I am curious though is how the position of the clip playhead is observed as currently, the LOM doesn't give you that (no absolute clip position).
The only way I could think of would be to observe the clip start (or better: loop_jump) and starting a metro at the same time to count the beats or whatever granularity you require. alternatively, you could tie it to the song time and subtract from that.
in any case, it is not as easy as it could be....but I guess, the next update will come eventually.
nick
It's not hard to observe the currently playing clip index and to trigger the next (last, first, random) clip after that. What I am curious though is how the position of the clip playhead is observed as currently, the LOM doesn't give you that (no absolute clip position).
The only way I could think of would be to observe the clip start (or better: loop_jump) and starting a metro at the same time to count the beats or whatever granularity you require. alternatively, you could tie it to the song time and subtract from that.
in any case, it is not as easy as it could be....but I guess, the next update will come eventually.
nick
Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
Yeah there is no access to the follow actions, i'm simply observing the playing position of the clip.... Which is possible in M4L... Then applying some maths to trigger a bang if looping is off and it's one beat before the clip end.....
Then another bit of maths as suggested by monhusche on the next clip to play, didn't spend too long on it as i only need play again or play below....
I'll try and post the code later but i'm just off to 5 a side...
Cheers
D
Then another bit of maths as suggested by monhusche on the next clip to play, didn't spend too long on it as i only need play again or play below....
I'll try and post the code later but i'm just off to 5 a side...
Cheers
D
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monohusche
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Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
really curious where you get the clip playing position from, the only thing I find is current_song_time which is the play position of the live set but not the clip.
Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
Don't say i don't do nothing for ya.....
You'll have to input the track number to the inlet but apart from that should be good to go, you'll have to replace the r --onisbelowoffisagain object with a toggle to decide on play below or play again....
Cheers
D
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You'll have to input the track number to the inlet but apart from that should be good to go, you'll have to replace the r --onisbelowoffisagain object with a toggle to decide on play below or play again....
Cheers
D
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monohusche
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Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
thx
looks like the online LOM docu is inconcistent with the one which is installed locally. No mentioning of playing_position here...
http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages ... model.html
but thx for the heads-up, I always found clicking on a safari bookmark easier than browsing through Max help.
nick
looks like the online LOM docu is inconcistent with the one which is installed locally. No mentioning of playing_position here...
http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages ... model.html
but thx for the heads-up, I always found clicking on a safari bookmark easier than browsing through Max help.
nick
Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
Don't know when it appeared but it worked before it got into the documentation!
Cheers
D
Cheers
D
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drummingninja
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Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
Thanks! Now I just have to learn M4L and actually make this work 
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drummingninja
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Re: Setting clip follow actions usings M4L
So how do you work this into a M4L patch? I've seen these little code snippets on the forum and was wondering how I'd go about integrating it.