Photoshoop edu licensing....and trademark madness

[dum]

Hey,
has anyone bought an edu license for Photoshop or other Adobe products ?
The discounts are impressive.

I'm just curious what kind of crippling edu licenses incur ... so far from checking their site it seems I can only install it on one computer, and I can't re-sell it. Fair enough.

I'd be most curious about upgrade paths...when new versions come out can an edu-license be upgraded ?


I found this pretty funny - check out how adobe would prefer you to respect their trademark:
http://www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html#section-4


Proper use of the Photoshop trademark

Trademarks help protect corporate and product identity, and the Photoshop trademark is one of Adobe's most valuable trademarks. By following the below guidelines, you can help Adobe protect the Photoshop brand name.

The Photoshop trademark must never be used as a common verb or as a noun. The Photoshop trademark should always be capitalized and should never be used in possessive form or as a slang term. It should be used as an adjective to describe the product and should never be used in abbreviated form. The following examples illustrate these rules:

Trademarks are not verbs.

Correct: The image was enhanced using Adobe® Photoshop® software.
Incorrect: The image was photoshopped.

Trademarks are not nouns.

Correct: The image pokes fun at the Senator.
Incorrect: The photoshop pokes fun at the Senator.

Always capitalize and use trademarks in their correct form.

Correct: The image was enhanced with Adobe® Photoshop® Elements software.
Incorrect: The image was photoshopped.
Incorrect: The image was Photoshopped.
Incorrect: The image was Adobe® Photoshopped.

Trademarks must never be used as slang terms.

Correct: Those who use Adobe® Photoshop® software to manipulate images as a hobby see their work as an art form.
Incorrect: A photoshopper sees his hobby as an art form.
Incorrect: My hobby is photoshopping.

Trademarks must never be used in possessive form.

Correct: The new features in Adobe® Photoshop® software are impressive.
Incorrect: Photoshop's new features are impressive.

Trademarks are proper adjectives and should be followed by the generic terms they describe.

Correct: The image was manipulated using Adobe® Photoshop® software.
Incorrect: The image was manipulated using Photoshop.

Trademarks must never be abbreviated.

Correct: Take a look at the new features in Adobe® Photoshop® software.
Incorrect: Take a look at the new features in PS.

[beats me]

I was just thinking the other day how expensive Photoshop is considering the silly purposes most of us use it for but as far as I know there's no lite version that would handle just the basics. But the price is also probably the result of it being the most frequently cracked piece of software out there, at least in the early days. I think I went through 6 versions and I didn't pay for any of them. I hear they're pretty hardcore about their authorization now.

[dum]

I was just thinking the other day how expensive Photoshop is considering the silly purposes most of us use it for but as far as I know there's no lite version that would handle just the basics. But the price is also probably the result of it being the most frequently cracked piece of software out there, at least in the early days. I think I went through 6 versions and I didn't pay for any of them. I hear they're pretty hardcore about their authorization now.

I'd say the price is because generally speaking it's a very well paid industry... even if no one cracked it I think they'd charge the same.

But ya, it's cracked like a mofo. I have a hunch they take a very altruistic outlook on the cracking of their software. In many ways, it helped place them as an industry standard. All those teenagers running cracks of their software eventually went to college, got jobs, started design companies... etc etc - eventually they all end up licensed. The people who use it for pay, of course.

They can't be any more hardcore than an iLok though can they ? and they're not using that...
I'll look into it though. I don't want to find out I have to deal with some adobe nazi if my motherboard dies and I need a new auth.



if you want a 'lite' photoshop I reccommend 'GIMP' if you haven't heard of it.
http://www.gimp.org/
open source photoshop, works good. I use it on my netbook.
netbook > iPad

[beats me]

I'll have to check out Gimp. I checked the webz and the only other app. I found that looks like it does the basic retarded stuff we'd use Photoshop for is Pixelmator for Mac but it's $60, which isn't bad considering all the years I ripped off Adobe.

[Salty P]

Photoshop Elements is the stripped down version, it's only 50 quid or so. - edit, my bad Elements looks like a pointless bag of shit

All that trademark stuff is pretty funny, but it's just typical marketing bullshit. When you say the phrase photoshop it's generally got a negative connotation either in terms of using it for illusionary purposes (making munters fit) or for the Joe public to to make stupid pics.

So the suits over at Adobe came up with the brilliant idea (whilst drinking frappadappachinos) that we can get everyone to stop saying photoshop and start saying 'enhanced using Adobe® Photoshop® '

[Salty P]

I use Gimp a lot, it's really cool.

You just need to get used to using ctrl in stead of cmnd. I managed to lose quite a lot of shit by thinking I'd saved using cmnd s when I needed to use ctrl!

[LoopStationZebra]

Photoshop Elements is the stripped down version, it's only 50 quid or so.

All that trademark stuff is pretty funny, but it's just typical marketing bullshit. When you say the phrase photoshop it's generally got a negative connotation either in terms of using it for illusionary purposes (making munters fit) or for the Joe public to to make stupid pics.

So the suits over at Adobe came up with the brilliant idea (whilst drinking frappadappachinos) that we can get everyone to stop saying photoshop and start saying 'enhanced using Adobe® Photoshop® '

It's not marketing bullshit. It's LEGAL bullshit.

They are quite simply protecting their brand by means of trademark guidelines. Which, incidently, their lawyers told them was the smart thing to do and - you know what? They're right.

Believe me when I tell you that the world is rife with douchebags who do all manner of tomfoolery with well-known trademarks in order to make a buck.

And using the phrase 'Photoshop' has no negative connotation whatsoever, lol.



You know nothing about Adobe or it's culture. STFU.

[Salty P]

I meant negative in contrast to perceived professional context.

Truth, I don't know anything about Adobe or it's culture, I am however, someone who pays for their software and I have been drinking so my opinion's valid

Do you work for Adobe?

[LoopStationZebra]

I meant negative in contrast to perceived professional context.

Truth, I don't know anything about Adobe or it's culture, I am however, someone who pays for their software and I have been drinking so my opinion's valid

Do you work for Adobe?

According to beatsme, I own Adobe.

[beats me]

I meant negative in contrast to perceived professional context.

Truth, I don't know anything about Adobe or it's culture, I am however, someone who pays for their software and I have been drinking so my opinion's valid

Do you work for Adobe?

According to beatsme, I own Adobe.

This is fact.

[stringtapper]

My school offers two options:

1) an EDU price that includes full versions of the software (manual, etc.). These can be individual apps (Photoshop, Illustrator) or one of the many CS packages. Not sure what the licensing is like with those.

2) a Student License. This is what I have because it's ridiculously cheap. I get the Adobe Design Standard CS for $275. That includes Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and Acrobat Pro. Insane deal. All you get is the install DVD in a flimsy case. You can install on up to two computers. Sorry but I don't know anything else about their licensing.

Hmm, after checking it out, it seems my school actually makes $75 off of that Design Standard package: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openopt ... udent.html

[dum]

Insane deal. All you get is the install DVD in a flimsy case. You can install on up to two computers.

good info, thanks.

and you're right it is an insane deal. kudos to adobe, smart people.

I see alot of references to 'north america' on their website in reference to academic purchases, I hope edu licenses aren't restricted to that area... calling them later