Native Instruments B4 with Ableton
Native Instruments B4 with Ableton
Can anyone here help. I'm running NI B4 through Ableton with two keyboards. I'd like to be able to split it so that the top keyboard plays the upper manual and the bottom keyboard plays the lower manual. This works fine when B4 is standalone but through Ableton both keyboards will only play the upper manual even though I have the keyboards on different midi channels and regardless of what channels I designate to upper and lower in the B4 setup. Anyone else had this problems?
Re: Native Instruments B4 with Ableton
Do you not need to assign separate midi channels to each keyboard (within Ableton) to do that?
Re: Native Instruments B4 with Ableton
^Yes! Top keyboard is Midi channel 1, 2nd is Midi 2, and pedals is 3. Set the track's midi in accordingly or all (omni).
Terrence Lennon
Re: Native Instruments B4 with Ableton
Thanks for the replies. I've tried opening one midi track in Ableton, Midi from 'all ins' and 'all channels'. I then set the top keyboard to transmit on Ch1 and the bottom on Ch2 but both are still playing the upper manual. I've checked the settings in the B4 setup by the way.
Re: Native Instruments B4 with Ableton
Hi --
Did you ever figure out how to do this? Because I just worked it out myself. I'm coming from Sonar, where you can define multiple specific input MIDI devices and channels to a single track. With Ableton apparently you have to use three separate tracks to handle inputs respectively on Channel 1 (for the upper manula), Channel 2 (for the lower manual) and Channel 3 (for the pedals).
Start out by creating a MIDI channel dedicated to the B4 (you can do this by dragging the B4 VST over from the plugins list and have Ableton create the track for you). I have this channel configured with no inputs and as its output the Master channel (obviously the Master channel needs to be configured to have its output be some sound device).
Now set up three more MIDI channels, each of which has to have its input configured to accept the correct device and channel that you wish to use to control that channel's portion of B4. The outputs for these three channels need to be set to be the other MIDI track where the B4 VST is located, with the correct channel number specified in each track. So on my setup I have one channel set up to receive input from Channel 1 of my Akai MPK49 amd the output set to be the B4 VST track, channel 1. The next channel is configured to receive input from channel 2 of my Roland PC-70 leyboard and have its output be the B4 VST track, channel 2. And the third channel receives input from my Roland A-90 controller and has its output set to the B4 VST track, channel 3.
Remember that all four of these channels need to be armed and that in order for the respective inouts to appear in the channels input lists, the Ableton preferences dialog must be configured to listen to all three devices. Works like a charm for me.
Hope this helps, if you didn't figure it out already.
Regards,
MIke
Did you ever figure out how to do this? Because I just worked it out myself. I'm coming from Sonar, where you can define multiple specific input MIDI devices and channels to a single track. With Ableton apparently you have to use three separate tracks to handle inputs respectively on Channel 1 (for the upper manula), Channel 2 (for the lower manual) and Channel 3 (for the pedals).
Start out by creating a MIDI channel dedicated to the B4 (you can do this by dragging the B4 VST over from the plugins list and have Ableton create the track for you). I have this channel configured with no inputs and as its output the Master channel (obviously the Master channel needs to be configured to have its output be some sound device).
Now set up three more MIDI channels, each of which has to have its input configured to accept the correct device and channel that you wish to use to control that channel's portion of B4. The outputs for these three channels need to be set to be the other MIDI track where the B4 VST is located, with the correct channel number specified in each track. So on my setup I have one channel set up to receive input from Channel 1 of my Akai MPK49 amd the output set to be the B4 VST track, channel 1. The next channel is configured to receive input from channel 2 of my Roland PC-70 leyboard and have its output be the B4 VST track, channel 2. And the third channel receives input from my Roland A-90 controller and has its output set to the B4 VST track, channel 3.
Remember that all four of these channels need to be armed and that in order for the respective inouts to appear in the channels input lists, the Ableton preferences dialog must be configured to listen to all three devices. Works like a charm for me.
Hope this helps, if you didn't figure it out already.
Regards,
MIke