How do you feel about a sub in your monitor system?

[Tone Deft]

Thus begs the question; do we really need specialized monitors?

BLASPHEMY!!!!

you can pry my Adams out of my cold dead hands. or when I drop them for the B&Ws you'll give me.

I loathe bad sounding systems, it's like going to an art gallery with these on, pointless.




you need good monitors to learn how to mix to begin with, only then could you start to learn to mix around bad monitors. but why go back?

[ChiDJ]

Thus begs the question; do we really need specialized monitors?

BLASPHEMY!!!!

you can pry my Adams out of my cold dead hands. or when I drop them for the B&Ws you'll give me.

I loathe bad sounding systems, it's like going to an art gallery with these on, pointless.




you need good monitors to learn how to mix to begin with, only then could you start to learn to mix around bad monitors. but why go back?

The Tone Speaketh The Trufe.

[invol]

Just remember that while subs are great for producing, they are not great for mixing (and you really need a matched pair for mastering) - unless your room is the right size and properly treated with bass traps and such. They can be a real pain in the ass unless you test your room and know what they are really doing versus what the room is doing.

Just my 2 cents.

[e.g.:]

And a very good two cents it is.

[e.g.:]

Thus begs the question; do we really need specialized monitors?

BLASPHEMY!!!!

you can pry my Adams out of my cold dead hands. or when I drop them for the B&Ws you'll give me.

I loathe bad sounding systems, it's like going to an art gallery with these on, pointless.




you need good monitors to learn how to mix to begin with, only then could you start to learn to mix around bad monitors. but why go back?

You've missed my point. The two speakers that I've mentioned were not made to be studio monitors, yet one became a standard, and the other is used in a premiere studio.

So I have to wonder; are studio monitors just more gear marketing bull? I imagine that they are, to an extent.

[Ninja-Matic]

I am looking into getting one.

I try to keep my mixes fairly neutral as it is the end system that should do the job of adding more EQ to the final mix based on the listener's preference.

I use JBL LSR 2300 monitors and there is no "woofer" port like some other monitors so I do miss a LOT of the low-end. They output as low as 30 - but the gain is minimal. Most monitors are meant for clarity and reproduction so you can hear the nuances and imperfections in audio.

I think it would be a good idea to have one so you can better hear when you are hitting those supa-dupa-low-bass-in-the-face tones as another use mentioned about DNB.

For now I just bounce the audio and play it everywhere I can from my car stereo to the surround in the viewing room. I try to hear what it sounds like everywhere so I can nail down that neutral EQ so the end user system does the rest, as they should, per the listener's liking.

[Tone Deft]

e.g. - I think I get you.

AFAIK the NS10s became classics because they have a predictable sound and a lot of engineers used them as grot boxes. if something sounds good on them it'll sound good in a lot of places. the yellow cones also helped them become more and more popular, so they became a standard reference. it probably could have been any number of mediocre monitors that became the standard but the NS10s got lucky. or so I've read on the interweb.

[e.g.:]

Yup.

And high end audiophile system manufacturers are aiming for the same goal as studio monitor designers: the elusive flat response that gives accurate representation.

Which is why, more and more studios are using speakers made by high end audio companies like B&W.

[Tarekith]

Just remember that while subs are great for producing, they are not great for mixing (and you really need a matched pair for mastering) - unless your room is the right size and properly treated with bass traps and such. They can be a real pain in the ass unless you test your room and know what they are really doing versus what the room is doing.

Just my 2 cents.

+1

[Machinesworking]

Simple reason, without a sub I mix far too bass heavy. By default I mix with no mid, all high and low, so my monitor system is designed by myself to have a lot of high and low end in it. I still think it's necessary to play tracks on my crappy home stereo and car CD player as well, just to make sure it sounds good in the worst conditions.
Other peoples stereos can make you run back to remix as well.

[tlennon]

...think it's necessary to play tracks on my crappy home stereo and car CD player as well, just to make sure it sounds good in the worst conditions. Other peoples stereos can make you run back to remix as well.

A time consuming but necessary thing. I go thru some many CDs it's pathetic.

[JuanSOLO]

I use Makie HR624 monitors for mixing, and when I feel like I got a good mix, I take my laptop out to my Honda Element which has a some monster subs in the back, tweak my mix, than back to the Makie monitors and do final tweaking.

[Tone Deft]

I use Makie HR624 monitors for mixing, and when I feel like I got a good mix, I take my laptop out to the Falcon which has a some monster subs in the back, tweak my mix, than back to the Makie monitors and do final tweaking.

fixed.

don't spoil my fantasies.

[Mr Man]

I tried one out and it was a nightmare. Just made my whole room rattle. You really need solid Walls with
plenty bass traps or a floating room - proper studio really

[Mr Man]

...think it's necessary to play tracks on my crappy home stereo and car CD player as well, just to make sure it sounds good in the worst conditions. Other peoples stereos can make you run back to remix as well.

A time consuming but necessary thing. I go thru some many CDs it's pathetic.

mp3 player!