Dubstep questions and ableton lessons . Los Angeles Area

[enthawizeguy]

So I have been doing hip hop for years never really got into making electronic music. I am used to an mpc. I have had ableton for a few years now and I am really trying to delve into more now. I have been having trouble finding a lot of info on dubstep production and i have a few other questions, I would be very grateful if you could answer. My equipment now (MPC1000, Ableton 8 suite,MPD16, MPD32, Korg Micro X, Motif Rack)

1. Does anyone know any forum/websites that have basic dubstep production info or can you provide me with it here? (Time signatures, tempo, drum sounds and tips, wobble bass, etc)


2. Any good websites with dubstep video tutorials and a recommendation for the best ableton tutorial book?


3. Does anyone know of any dubstep producers in the LA area who would be willing to give a few lessons for some kind of compensation? (I am a very visual learner, once i get the basics down and see them once it's on from there)



Thanks,
Ian


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[hautlle]

There are quite a few dubstep wobble-bass tutorials on youtube/vimeo that I've seen. The beats for dubstep are pretty simple. Snare on 2/4, skittery/non-quantized hats, and a kick on downbeats maybe the off beat every once in a while.

[enthawizeguy]

I guess more wondering about the song structure if theres a formula most producers go by like with hip hop. Also about the bass lines and tempos. Anyways thanks again.

[Gyu гы]

Hello, Dubstep forum is what you need, heres a link to the production section,
http://www.dubstepforum.com/production.html
Generally dubstep is made at 140 but in half-time, so the snare is on the 3, and has lashings of swing.
Hope this helps

[enthawizeguy]

Thanks I will check that out. I am still confused as to how you go about doing half time.

[ze2be]

Thanks I will check that out. I am still confused as to how you go about doing half time.

Kick, bass and snare: 70bpm very slow..
cymbals, percussion: 140 bpm

If you keep the project @ 140 bpm, basically only the kick, snare, and bass clips needs to be "half time".
But the whole idea is playing with half time, back and fourth. Its a nice future of Dubstep.
It made me think different when doing DnB, and now days I tend to use half/full time also there.

Wobbly Dubstep bass is super easy to make: Set the synth LFO to sync, let it mod the volume or the filter, and play with the lfo speed.

I recommend Albino, Massive, Surge. Because they can be pretty simple to begin with, while offering all you need when its time to progress.

[contakt321]

Hello, Dubstep forum is what you need, heres a link to the production section,
http://www.dubstepforum.com/production.html

+1

[ze2be]

Nice forum!

Found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=e ... ZYDmw2pYOk

[contakt321]

I just want to chime in and say, that most people associate dubstep w/ wobble, but there is a lot more to it than that.

There is a whole lot of amazing music out there under the dubstep umbrella that is wobble free - definitely check it out.

[oddstep]

I just want to chime in and say, that most people associate dubstep w/ wobble, but there is a lot more to it than that.

There is a whole lot of amazing music out there under the dubstep umbrella that is wobble free - definitely check it out.

s'right. Everytime i go out to a dubstep night it's loads of seriousguys nodding to halfstep wobblers. Bring the party back!

[enthawizeguy]

thanks for the help. it's weird the half time thing never made sense to me. am i recording the drums at 70 than changing the bpm of the drums to 140 and recording the hats etc? or is that totally wrong?

[oddstep]

conceptually it's like getting a breakbeat loop - duplicating it, high passing one copy so that there's only hats and hi freq percussion left, low passing the other copy so theres only snares and kicks left... then timestretching this copy so it takes twice as long to complete a cycle.
practically it means setting the metronome to 140 and playing a fairly swung sixteenths hat pattern, then playing some kicks and snares really slowly over the top. Alternatively you could set the metronome to 280, play in a fairly snappy kick/snare pattern against the metronome blur, slow it down to 140 and play some 1/16th hats in.
the feel i get from hearing halfstep is of a 140 tempo that's held by an interplay between mid frequency harmonics from bass wobble, melody lines and 'hats/congas etc' with handy kick/snare signposts for mcing being scattered around a 2 - 4 bar cycle. Then theres a really sluggish undertow of sub pressure that can be running at the same cycle length as the kick/snare pattern or could be really slow - with long held note patterns that repeat over 8 bars. basically it's uptempo music with most of the elements taking longer than expected to complete a sparse cycle of events.

[enthawizeguy]

wow i kinda get it. dub step drums kinda confuses me and it shouldn't because it seems so simple

[jeskola01]

Dubstep basslines in Reaktor.

http://co.native-instruments.com/index. ... tchid=8837

This thing is SAVAGE!