post track drum beat

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christs4
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post track drum beat

Post by christs4 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:28 am

Hi,

I've been working on a new song which consists of several guitar and keyboard tracks. I'd now like to lay down a rhythm track.
What's the best technique for building up a rhythm track? Obviously I could record one drum per track (i.e. hi-hat on one track, snare on another etc etc..then mix these together into one track until I have my full rhythm track)but that seems laborious.
I could also create a beat usiing the MIDI Note Editor. I'm guessing this is probably the best way but would I then need to cut and paste this into my song? also the beat changes throughout the song so I would need to edit the beat further to fit the song.
If anyone knows of a simpler/faster method I could use I'd appreciate it. And if anyone knows where I could find pre set rhythms that I could just alter the Temp then this may work also.
Thanks

christs4
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Re: post track drum beat

Post by christs4 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:53 pm

Hi again,

I've just tried to add a rhythm/drum beat to my track following the 'Creating Beats' lesson but have a slight problem.
I'm viewing my song in the Session View and have added a new track for drums. When I go to record and play the hi hat I can hear it ok in playback mode. However it doesn't seem to allow me to build up the rhythm as it did in the lesson. Although I can view the Midi Note editor it's not registering the notes I play and therefore not allowing me to build the rhythm track as I'd hoped. Is there a setting I'm missing? The track is 'armed' the Global Record button is armed but I think there's something else I'm missing.

Any ideas?

bk2008
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Re: post track drum beat

Post by bk2008 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:13 pm

Hi I am having similar issues with adding drums to my tracks.
I don't like penciling in midi bit's I instead have the ideal drum sounds from my Fantom X.
I tried doing a Kick track without Quantize on, it was all over the place, I then tried it with various Quantization from 4/4 , 8/4, 16/4 and it was worst.

IT WAS WORST then without quantization.
So I persevered by recording my Kick track without Quantize and in the hopes that I could correct the beats using WARP. I found this to be too tedious and too crappy as well.
Abletons WARP features are all over the place.
Warp can be done effectively but it takes too damn long to waste time correcting beats, it's OK if you are a non musician. But for Real musicians it gets a bit frustrating.

I think that if a Muso has an idea in mind and wants to express the rhythms, it is impossible with Ableton Live. I'm not into DJ stuff and maybe I bought the wrong product for the job.
These day's I find that I have to assemble the entire midi tracks into the Fantom X and then Sync them into Ableton Live. If anyone has a better alternative for a Muso, I'm all ears....
This is the only way I can get my Drum patterns to work in time, in-other-words, I now use Ableton Live as a simple recording tool. That's as far as I can get getting the thing to do what I want.

Thank God for Roland Fantom X, I would be lost without it.

BK

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