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We told u to stand by...
This email landed in my in box...
Ninja Tune get off the fence with the help of Saul Williams and say no to a war for oil.
Fuck Bush and Blair and their pernicious and hypocritical hyperbole.
Press release to follow.
Release date March 24th (or as early as possible) 12"
Any profits to anti-war charity
MP3s available from now - listen to
http://www.ninjatune.net/downloads
Not In My Name by Saul Williams original.
listen to the message - the mixes by
Coldcut & Spooky
biography at
http://www.artistsnetwork.org/news6/news263.html
word to troops: immediate promotion for "Not In My Name" single, but more importantly the promotion of the
anti-war message
right now
when the need for this
to be heard
is crucial.
word.
i just went & had a listen
go there b4 u go home &
turn up your speakers &
listen
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OT - Say NO to war for oil
OT - Say NO to war for oil
Further up Mbazzy's latest remix of Saul Williams' anti-war-statement [find it here : http://stage.vitaminic.com/sad_end_projects or http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/mbazzymusic.htm or http://ssa.iuma.com/ [ It's only the first draft - cleaner edit in the works - It is Ableton related as it was entirely done in Live 2.0.1 It's raw, it's gritty, it's intended ... ] we find it appropriate to pass this message on to the forums :
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According to a EOS Gallup Europe survey towards 15000 people all over Europe, 80% is AGAINST a war against Iraq by the USA without a UN mandate.
In current EC countries, 82% is against, in the 13 candidate countries, 75% is against military intervention.
Intervention is supported in case weapons if massdestruction are found, or if Iraq attacks neighbouring countries.
75% of the people asked consider OIL as the main reason for this upcoming war ...
In current EC countries, 82% is against, in the 13 candidate countries, 75% is against military intervention.
Intervention is supported in case weapons if massdestruction are found, or if Iraq attacks neighbouring countries.
75% of the people asked consider OIL as the main reason for this upcoming war ...
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yon
In questioning of people on a busy square in Budapest, a BBC correspondent reported it taking an hour to find even one person who backed a U.S./British invasion of Iraq!
An invasion is not even well-supported by the U.S. population. The Bush administration is counting on the likely supposition that Americans will support such an invasion once it is declared, because of the belief among many americans that to speak out against (even an unjust) war during wartime would be unpatriotic. Once the U.S. initiates an attack abroad, of the domestic U.S. media coverage it has been true in all recent examples (panama, yugoslavia, sudan, the gulf war) that critical discussion in the popular newsmedia all but evaporates once the bombing begins.
--yon
An invasion is not even well-supported by the U.S. population. The Bush administration is counting on the likely supposition that Americans will support such an invasion once it is declared, because of the belief among many americans that to speak out against (even an unjust) war during wartime would be unpatriotic. Once the U.S. initiates an attack abroad, of the domestic U.S. media coverage it has been true in all recent examples (panama, yugoslavia, sudan, the gulf war) that critical discussion in the popular newsmedia all but evaporates once the bombing begins.
--yon
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Alex Reynolds
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Any critical discussion within American mass media evaporated months ago. The discussion since Bush moved troops into the area has been [i]when[/i] we are going in, and not [i]why[/i].
The reality is that a lot of the media corporations have investors who have a lot of money in military contractors, and American companies have done their fair share of selling Hussein a lot of the nasty stuff he has. This is why a major chunk of Iraq's weapons declaration papers were removed by the US before sent to the UN Security Council.
Europeans are no better on this score. There are a number of British, German and French companies (Siemens is a recent publicized example) that have sold weapons and weapon components to Iraq over the last two decades. This too is not discussed to any major extent by European or American media outlets.
European colonialism in the late 1800s and early 1900s is why the Middle East and Africa are so fucked up politically, and now we're all paying the price. The Americans are just writing the sequel. Next stop after Iraq will be Saudi Arabia and Iran. We need to bring gas down under $1 a gallon to keep the masses quiet about unemployment and the miserable state of healthcare and education.
Keep on rockin' in the free world,
-Alex
The reality is that a lot of the media corporations have investors who have a lot of money in military contractors, and American companies have done their fair share of selling Hussein a lot of the nasty stuff he has. This is why a major chunk of Iraq's weapons declaration papers were removed by the US before sent to the UN Security Council.
Europeans are no better on this score. There are a number of British, German and French companies (Siemens is a recent publicized example) that have sold weapons and weapon components to Iraq over the last two decades. This too is not discussed to any major extent by European or American media outlets.
European colonialism in the late 1800s and early 1900s is why the Middle East and Africa are so fucked up politically, and now we're all paying the price. The Americans are just writing the sequel. Next stop after Iraq will be Saudi Arabia and Iran. We need to bring gas down under $1 a gallon to keep the masses quiet about unemployment and the miserable state of healthcare and education.
Keep on rockin' in the free world,
-Alex
'Does Tony have any idea what the flies are like that feed o
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Tune in and get involved in the underground grass roots media for the real news at indymedia.org -there is bound to be an Indy in your capital city..
It all starts from local networks.
With words and music as our weapons we are unstoppable.
Currently in Melbourne Australia we are running campaigns to stop the war at melbourneindymedia.org. Like EU, most of the population do not support war without UN approval, yet our ‘democratically’ elected leader has committed Australia troops to US led war without parliamentary backing.
We must enfuse music and politics a bit more me thinks.
Cheers.
Well spoken ... 
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Krzysztof
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The call
This 'war' seems to have become in many people's mind un fait complet. Both the war hawks and the peace doves see it as a done deal, and quite a bit of attention is placed on that aspect...the acting or not acting out of the war call. The reasons why or why not, the justifications and the recriminations.
We have war, and therefore have peace. We see these two options as part of who we are as a species. We have come to believe they are our only two choices. But this isn't so.
This latest war/peace event now gives us the opportunity to again see the third way, some would call it the middle way, others would simply call it Beingness.
The opportunity to shift towards Beingness is becomes more and more apparent each and every second in everybody's life. Granted, we all still hold on to fear, some more some less, but we are moving out of fear. We are on the cusp of a shift that moves us towards light and love. Its calling and we are begining to answering.
We have war, and therefore have peace. We see these two options as part of who we are as a species. We have come to believe they are our only two choices. But this isn't so.
This latest war/peace event now gives us the opportunity to again see the third way, some would call it the middle way, others would simply call it Beingness.
The opportunity to shift towards Beingness is becomes more and more apparent each and every second in everybody's life. Granted, we all still hold on to fear, some more some less, but we are moving out of fear. We are on the cusp of a shift that moves us towards light and love. Its calling and we are begining to answering.
not ONE sane person is at the controls in this fucking country.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/Master%20Outline.htm
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/Master%20Outline.htm
nyquist theorem and nyquil...
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noisetonepause
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It is my sincere belief that the opressed should be freed. No sane person could say that the Iraqi aren't opressed.
But... George 'dubya' Bush?
My vote's for enforcing the UN charter, on a global level, because it IS true and just. It's a simple as that. Dictatorship should be removed and kept at bay, wherever it shows its ugly face. This could be by sending in the blue barrets - which any man/woman should be damn proud to wear - or by arming rebels. The trouble is that there is no real opposition in Iraq.
Freedom _is_ worth fighting for...
Health, Wealth, and Happiness,
/Niklas
But... George 'dubya' Bush?
My vote's for enforcing the UN charter, on a global level, because it IS true and just. It's a simple as that. Dictatorship should be removed and kept at bay, wherever it shows its ugly face. This could be by sending in the blue barrets - which any man/woman should be damn proud to wear - or by arming rebels. The trouble is that there is no real opposition in Iraq.
Freedom _is_ worth fighting for...
Health, Wealth, and Happiness,
/Niklas
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yon
1. Quoting from : http://www.ips-dc.org/iraq/primer.htmnoisetonepause wrote:It is my sincere belief that the opressed should be freed. No sane person could say that the Iraqi aren't opressed.
But... George 'dubya' Bush?
My vote's for enforcing the UN charter, on a global level, because it IS true and just. It's a simple as that. Dictatorship should be removed and kept at bay, wherever it shows its ugly face. This could be by sending in the blue barrets - which any man/woman should be damn proud to wear - or by arming rebels. The trouble is that there is no real opposition in Iraq.
Freedom _is_ worth fighting for...
According to the United Nations Charter, no nation has the right to attack another. The only exceptions are 1) if the Security Council specifically authorizes a military strike, or 2) in self-defense. "Self-defense" is defined very narrowly. Article 51 of the Charter says a country has the right of self-defense only "IF an armed attack occurs." Iraq has not attacked the U.S. (see section 5 on "no-fly" zones), so self-defense does not apply. The U.S. claims it has the right of "preemptive self-defense" to go to war against Iraq, without any further authorization from the United Nations. But the UN Charter does not authorize such a claim. Some scholars believe that stopping an imminent attack would also give a country the right to use military force in a kind of self-defense. But even that argument fails, because no one, even the Bush super-hawks, claims that an Iraqi attack of any sort, especially on the United States, is "imminent."
The U.S. is also, to my knowledge, the only country in the past couple years which has advocated preemptive use of nuclear weapons outside of wartime. One might reasonably ask whether Iraq or U.S. is the more credible threat for mass destruction.
2. The United States has never been interested in liberation or democracy as and end to anything. Still is not. Some of its closest allies, particularly in the 3rd world, have been and are among the worst despots. During the cold war, the justification for this strategy was the threatening communist plague. The present justification is the "war on terror".
3. Relevant to the war on terror, it is not difficult to construct an argument that among the worst instigators of terror in the world are U.S. clients.
4. The U.S. has been "arming rebels" (and training them) for several decades. In central america, the result was tens of thousands of deaths. Iraq was armed under a regional version of this program, under the Reagan administration.
Every child knows that this is a war about oil and U.S. foreign policy hegemony. The Bush cabinet is full of those with explicit ties to the oil industry.
Iraq is a modern country with a functioning bureaucracy and which, not unusually, has very bad top-level leadership right now (in large part due to U.S. support in recent decades).
Bhagdad is a modern city approximately the size of Los Angeles, which the Bush administration intends to bomb it into submission, perhaps into oblivion.
This war should be strongly opposed by any good person.
--yon
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Very eloquently put, Yon. Mostly, I concur.
Maybe I should have replaced the words 'UN charter' with 'human rights', if you see what I mean. I'm not familiar with all the content of the UN charter, but I know the 1789 declaration of Human Rights more or less by heart :-)
And when I talked about 'arming the rebels', I was not applauding the insertion of a person like Pinochet (may he rot in a very cold place) - in fact, I hold Salvatore Allende in very high regard. I was talking about giving the people of a nation the power to institute a government which has the people's best interest at heart. (If it weren't for the fact that they already had more weapons than the Chinese army, I'd say we should maybe drop some over the more intellectual parts of the USA :-))
I do not believe that the Iraqi government is able, much less has the will or motive, to attack the US - the only possible motive would be to remove the embargo, and not even mr. Hussein is stupid enough to think that nuking the American mainland would cause that to be lifted. America, however, has obvious interests in inserting (another) puppet regime in Iraq.
Where we MIGHT differ in opinion - you have not stated such sentiments directly, but I hope you'll forgive my prejudice - is on pacifism. There are many things regarding THIS war which are wrong and immoral, yes - but war in itself can and will be necessary. Always. I feel that the rhethoric of the left (left as in socialist, for any Americans reading - where I'm from, liberalism is regarded as right winged and regressive), which tends dangerously towards the apathic side of nonviolence. The indifference of good men is as dangerous as evil men.
Health, Wealth and Happiness,
/Niklas
Maybe I should have replaced the words 'UN charter' with 'human rights', if you see what I mean. I'm not familiar with all the content of the UN charter, but I know the 1789 declaration of Human Rights more or less by heart :-)
And when I talked about 'arming the rebels', I was not applauding the insertion of a person like Pinochet (may he rot in a very cold place) - in fact, I hold Salvatore Allende in very high regard. I was talking about giving the people of a nation the power to institute a government which has the people's best interest at heart. (If it weren't for the fact that they already had more weapons than the Chinese army, I'd say we should maybe drop some over the more intellectual parts of the USA :-))
I do not believe that the Iraqi government is able, much less has the will or motive, to attack the US - the only possible motive would be to remove the embargo, and not even mr. Hussein is stupid enough to think that nuking the American mainland would cause that to be lifted. America, however, has obvious interests in inserting (another) puppet regime in Iraq.
Where we MIGHT differ in opinion - you have not stated such sentiments directly, but I hope you'll forgive my prejudice - is on pacifism. There are many things regarding THIS war which are wrong and immoral, yes - but war in itself can and will be necessary. Always. I feel that the rhethoric of the left (left as in socialist, for any Americans reading - where I'm from, liberalism is regarded as right winged and regressive), which tends dangerously towards the apathic side of nonviolence. The indifference of good men is as dangerous as evil men.
Health, Wealth and Happiness,
/Niklas
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Interesting thoughts.
Here is one page which lists forthcoming anti-war demonstrations, many of which are planned for Feb 15:
http://www.zmag.org/antiwarres.htm
One should be stunned by the lack of analysis in media coverage of the Powell presentation yesterday. Here are 3 links commenting on and rebutting his presentation:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=2977
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=2976
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=2980
Here is one page which lists forthcoming anti-war demonstrations, many of which are planned for Feb 15:
http://www.zmag.org/antiwarres.htm
One should be stunned by the lack of analysis in media coverage of the Powell presentation yesterday. Here are 3 links commenting on and rebutting his presentation:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=2977
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=2976
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... temID=2980
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Peace NOW!!! LIVE remix of Hollywood Peace Celebration
I created an acid techno track in LIVE mixing in my samples of the crowd's peace chants from the Hollywood Peace Celebration on February 15, 2003. The track is called "Peace NOW!!!" and can be heard on
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/537/perfect_buzz.html
Crowd chants are great to sample...they're very rhythmic, have great cadences, and are emotionally intense.
The track is an ideal 2 minutes...did a wicked solo on my Devilfish (a modified tb303 on steroids). LIVE is so easy to work in that it only took me about 3 hours to record, tweak, and upload the file to the site.
Like most people on this topic, I haven't fallen for the multinational media corporation propaganda either. I'm proud and lucky to be an American, but I urgently oppose the American Government's corrupt foreign policies of aggression and domination. This emotional intensity is expressed in this track.
enjoy,
marcus
perfect buzz music
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/537/perfect_buzz.html
Crowd chants are great to sample...they're very rhythmic, have great cadences, and are emotionally intense.
The track is an ideal 2 minutes...did a wicked solo on my Devilfish (a modified tb303 on steroids). LIVE is so easy to work in that it only took me about 3 hours to record, tweak, and upload the file to the site.
Like most people on this topic, I haven't fallen for the multinational media corporation propaganda either. I'm proud and lucky to be an American, but I urgently oppose the American Government's corrupt foreign policies of aggression and domination. This emotional intensity is expressed in this track.
enjoy,
marcus
perfect buzz music
