NI Maschine?

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:12 am

Oliver Brown wrote:Total noob question, can you use the NI Maschine without it being connected to a laptop, someone told me you can...

Not seen any video's of this though...

nope.has to be hooked up to a computer.dont pay attention to the douche.

supamonsta · Post by **supamonsta** » Mon May 03, 2010 8:03 am

a standalone maschine, without the need of a computer, would cost at least 2000$...

you need a mpc 4000...

Anand · Post by **Anand** » Mon May 03, 2010 9:15 am

I am almost bought out reading all the posts about Maschine. I however have 1 last question:

How does the elektron machine drum compare to Maschine. I know they are in different leagues- one is a stand alone instrument, the other probably is not.

But are there any opinions on a better buy between the both?

thanks

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon May 03, 2010 9:30 am

Anand wrote:I am almost bought out reading all the posts about Maschine. I however have 1 last question:

How does the elektron machine drum compare to Maschine. I know they are in different leagues- one is a stand alone instrument, the other probably is not.

But are there any opinions on a better buy between the both?

thanks

those are totally different things...!!!

totally i mean really totally, one is a drum maschine ONLY and one is a general great midi controller for any software, a workstation, a general music instrument (not just drums) etc.

it is funny, because the last thing i see maschine as of a sort of mpc or drum maschine replacement, i feel maschine is not at all a drum maschine only.

it is actually the least desirable function in it, that it can be just a drum maschine... it is the vast versatility and perfect workflow that makes it so desirable, IMO.

i know that skeet is thinking of trading the machine drum for maschine... maschine is sample based, no limits, the electron is limited, as great as it is, it is still limited.

malutki · Post by **malutki** » Mon May 03, 2010 9:38 am

ok, there are less things between me and a brand new maschine everyday,
because of you guys and your lovethreads

one of them could turn out to be a deal breaker though:

CPU-hunger/performance!
a colleague of mine has one and is complaining about the software lagging & dragging..
and his specs are the same as mine: 1,8 Ghz Core2Duo, 3GB RAM.

is he doing something wrong, or would I need a new computer AGAIN?

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon May 03, 2010 10:43 am

malutki wrote:ok, there are less things between me and a brand new maschine everyday,
because of you guys and your lovethreads

one of them could turn out to be a deal breaker though:

CPU-hunger/performance!
a colleague of mine has one and is complaining about the software lagging & dragging..
and his specs are the same as mine: 1,8 Ghz Core2Duo, 3GB RAM.

is he doing something wrong, or would I need a new computer AGAIN?

i have a 2.16 ghz MBP with 4gb ram... and a new 500gb 7200rpm drive... no issues here...
i find it pretty decent in terms of CPU consumption.

the only thing i had previous is because of my overfilled tiny drive (120gb 5400rpm, previous) i used an external 2.5" 5400rpm drive via USB 2.0 that hosted my maschine library, and that was to slow, i had hiccups when browsing and loading samples... that is gone, due to the faster accessible drive now...

however, i want to get an external small drive again (for a mobile backup and more libraries) that i can power from the laptop, and even i know lacie is not that great at times... but they have a 500gb 7200rpm 2.5" drive that has usb 2.0, firewire 400 and 800 and can run of buspower... i will go for that.
(didn't found any other yet with the 3 combo connection, buspowered operation)
and use the firewire 800 port.

not sliding off topic, but a huge thanks to paddy for the encouragement and skeet for helping me replacing it, the purchase of the 500gb seagate momentus 7200rpm is pure bliss, it was long, long time overdue, highly recommendable! extremely quiet and fast drive, i notice an increase in starting up applications.

Anand · Post by **Anand** » Mon May 03, 2010 1:06 pm

Subfunk, thanks for the reply.

I'll be gettin Mush eeen tomrw

malutki · Post by **malutki** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:39 pm

SubFunk wrote: i have a 2.16 ghz MBP with 4gb ram... and a new 500gb 7200rpm drive... no issues here...
i find it pretty decent in terms of CPU consumption.

great, thanks.
this gives me hope.
2,16 is not that much faster, and i do have a 7200drive already...

ewistrand · Post by **ewistrand** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:57 pm

malutki wrote:CPU-hunger/performance!
a colleague of mine has one and is complaining about the software lagging & dragging..
and his specs are the same as mine: 1,8 Ghz Core2Duo, 3GB RAM.

Sorry to say- it'll run, but you could see problems. System requirements are a 2 GHz CoreDuo or higher- personally, I find them a bit optimistic.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/ ... /?page=277

Your Maschine forum moderator,
ew

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon May 03, 2010 4:41 pm

Really?

i find it moderate, yes it is not super duper (but nothing beats logic and it's native plugs in that anyway)
but the highest push i managed is just over half way of the CPU meter, whatever that is, there are no values given... but then again i don't slam many reverbs on it (usually two, plus some other stuff)

only issue i had was hiccups and crackles becaue of slow data stream via a 5400rpm usb 2.0 external drive
but as i say my fx use is pretty economic.

even as a plugin within ableton 8 it is moderate.

i usually don't care about it as long as it works for me, but as so many people asking... has anyone an idea how to create a benchmark test for maschine?

or who pushed it with what to the limit on what system? yet, i am curios, because i really think it's OK, not super duper but not a hog either.

delicioso · Post by **delicioso** » Mon May 03, 2010 5:52 pm

I've never had any CPU issues on Maschine and I have a 5400rpm drive. One thing I've noticed over the years is how NI have made their software incredibly CPU efficient compared to how they were before. Guitar Rig used to be a hog but the past two versions have been one of the most CPU efficient amp emulation software I've used.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon May 03, 2010 5:56 pm

delicioso wrote:I've never had any CPU issues on Maschine and I have a 5400rpm drive.

i am sure it was because of external usb 2.0 connex, not because of 5400rpm. (gotta hate usb, fucking shit invention, the assholes don't push firewire as it should be... well the fuckers pushed once VHS over beta max as well... arrgghh!!! fucking industry selling crap instead of quality, RANT!)

my next portable external drive will have firewire, both 400 and 800, fuck this usb business... takes years.

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Mon May 03, 2010 7:09 pm

Anand wrote:I am almost bought out reading all the posts about Maschine. I however have 1 last question:

How does the elektron machine drum compare to Maschine. I know they are in different leagues- one is a stand alone instrument, the other probably is not.

But are there any opinions on a better buy between the both?

thanks

My machinedrum is going up on eBay this weekend.

Varoudis · Post by **Varoudis** » Mon May 03, 2010 7:23 pm

does anyone has "jumpy" encoders the first time you use them? (after you open mascine standalone it only happens one time for each encoder)

thnx
tasos

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Mon May 03, 2010 7:27 pm

Varoudis wrote:does anyone has "jumpy" encoders the first time you use them? (after you open mascine standalone it only happens one time for each encoder)

thnx
tasos

what do you mean by jumpy?

maschine itself has no pickup mode... (it will straight 'jump' to the value of the encoder, that is intended, because it goes faster)
and with other software it depends what takeover mode you choose...

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