Sliding into a bass note

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mcalldp
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Sliding into a bass note

Post by mcalldp » Thu May 13, 2010 6:39 pm

How do you get just one bass note to slide into the note rather than a direct pluck? Using midi bass line.

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by agent314 » Thu May 13, 2010 6:55 pm

Increase the attack? Turn on glide/portamento?

This is super vague - a little more info would help a lot

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by mcalldp » Thu May 13, 2010 7:03 pm

Sorry, this is Ableton 101 stuff but I couldn't find the answer in search but I am trying to get just ONE of the notes in a series of notes in a midi sequence attached to a bass sound to slide into the note. So, the first notes go thump thump thump then slide into the next note. The items you mentioned may be just the tools I need, I'll look around for their location and try to figure out how they work.

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by agent314 » Thu May 13, 2010 7:08 pm

So thump thump thump-slide-thump? So the pitch of the third note slides to be the pitch of the fourth note? Or so the fourth note fades in?

If it's the former, then having glide/porta on and having the notes not overlap at all (except for the third, which would overlap with the fourth).

If it's the latter... Maybe use the volume envelope for the clip to make a fade?

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by mcalldp » Thu May 13, 2010 7:29 pm

agent314 wrote:So thump thump thump-slide-thump? So the pitch of the third note slides to be the pitch of the fourth note? Or so the fourth note fades in?

If it's the former, then having glide/porta on and having the notes not overlap at all (except for the third, which would overlap with the fourth).

If it's the latter... Maybe use the volume envelope for the clip to make a fade?
You got it! (the former) like taking your finger on a bass string and sliding from the 3rd fret to the 5th fret (the 5th fret being your destination note) so of the E string you would slide i from a G-->A landing on the A but not plucking it again. It's just a quick slide adds flavor and sounds more...'real' Sounds like I need to look for the glide/porta control and figure out how to use those. Thanks again for the help

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by MPGK » Thu May 13, 2010 7:35 pm

Why not use pitch bend? You can set up a nice envelope in the clip.

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by mcalldp » Thu May 13, 2010 7:48 pm

MPGK wrote:Why not use pitch bend? You can set up a nice envelope in the clip.
Would that be more appropriate than glide? In a workflow sense, do you apply these in the sampler mode or do you usually do work in sample mode then record them all to audio tracks? So far, I seem to not even be touching the audio track portion, I just start off different scenes for different sections of a song. In a live situation this seems to allow for more freedom (want to play the chorus an extra time no problem!) at some point I'll need to put these into wav files so I can export to Cubase and record in my live guitar and vocals but that's recording vs live playing. Anyway, is there a reason to be using the wav file song area in ableton or am I doing the work-flow right in staying in the sample area and using scenes?

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by MPGK » Thu May 13, 2010 8:27 pm

Would that be more appropriate than glide?
It can do pretty much the same thing and could be easier to implement in your case.

I'm a bit confused about bringing audio tracks into the discussion. Are you referring to the arrangement view? I guess so...

Depends on what you need, I think - I use arrangement view live for my electro-pop duo because it's easier to do all the automation stuff for me.
The session view is where I jam and gather ideas before I drag them over to the arrangement. I guess if I performed my housey stuff live, I'd actually prefer the session view to directly react on the crowd's mood.
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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by mcalldp » Thu May 13, 2010 8:34 pm

MPGK wrote:I'm a bit confused about bringing audio tracks into the discussion. Are you referring to the arrangement view?
Yes, is there any reason to be throwing these into the arrangement view rather than just firing off scenes and individual samples as needed? I guess I am asking, is the arrangement flow import in a live situation or is it more for just recording out a whole song? My feel, at these early moments in working with Ableton, is that I see no need to use arrangement view as I fire off scenes via midi... if I was recording, I would use arrangement view and lock everything int wav files for export or am I missing a valid use for arrangement view in a live situation? Wow, that sounds as clear as mud....ha ha

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Re: Sliding into a bass note

Post by MPGK » Thu May 13, 2010 8:40 pm

I just like to have a precise course when playing live, not depending on me hitting the right button at the right time while concentrating on singing and playing synth-lines and dancing like a monkey at the same time. ;)
Also, it's a lot neater when I can actually see the envelopes without opening different clips, and I don't have to create a single clip for each variation... there are so many reasons. But then again, there are so many reasons to use the session view. Whatever floats your boat.

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