Post your set up and your sexy cat...

[McQ714]

does the framing of the building play a part in that, though?

wood vs. metal vs. solid concrete vs. cmu block? what's ideal?

dammit ableton... my 8.1.3 suite download was 20% in and failed.

[SubFunk]

does the framing of the building play a part in that, though?

wood vs. metal vs. solid concrete vs. cmu block? what's ideal?

dammit ableton... my 8.1.3 suite download was 20% in and failed.

yeah you made a good point about the 'gluing' you just should wherever there is physical contact from the frames / treatment to the wall(s) or the materials in itself as long as they are form hard none flexible material, make sure that not resonances can develop, put some thin foam stripe or whatever in between... just enough that the wood when it starts to swing from heavy bass, for example, can't rattle agains the wall and make nosies, etc.

[martelo]

I would not keep the sub so close to the box, hard drives do not like electromagnetic fields.

any half decent modern monitor system is fully shielded.

Its still a bad idea because the vibrations can damage the drive. I´ve got a similar situation, and I put some cloth under the computer, that absorbs some of it.

yeah right guys, i just moved it... for the good vibrations
thx

[3dot...]

anytime this comes up...I recommend this :


he has several schemes for different budgets..including home studio types
actually.. I consider it a must have

[martelo]

Building a Recording Studio
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24 euro for a "must have" is OK

[Furland]

@ Inch Lo actually, you don't have to wonder too much about the frames being flush with the wall. It's actually better to leave them off the wall by app. the same amount as the rigid fibreglass/minerallwoll you're going to fill them with! But since you have very little space to begin with, and since you room sound relatively rectangular you will be up for quite a challenge, but it will get better with your traps installed, and in order to maximize their effect I would rather advice you to use a large circle drill and make a lot of holes on all four sides of the frames, that way you not only increase you absorption efficiency, you will also eliminate or minimize any reflections which will occur from the massive frame edges. Don't worry as it seems like solid pine, and it will hold anyway.
If you can't justify placing the traps away from the walls, the previous suggestion will add to the efficiency. However keep in mind that doing Broadband Absorbers/Bass Traps you should try and utilize all 6! sides of the absorbing material, as anything else will be somewhat a waste now it's there anyway.

About the placement of monitors and the listening position, there is a golden rule about your "sweet spot" position that it should be at "exactly" 38% of the room length, centered on the width, from the wall you are facing. Now make a even sided triangle between that position and place the monitors with the tweeters at the corresponding distance equally spaced left and right.
If I were you, I would remove the current shelves which the monitors are resting on, and get a decent pair of monitor stands (ex. Ultimate Stands MS36) as that will also add to the improvements of you sound image, since all wooden shelves like those resonate and it also adds a lot of other unwanted reflections.
Move the desk a bit away from the wall too and maybe clean out the possible other furniture to your left to achieve some kind of room symmetry.

So to get the best position, find the sweet spot, then with the frames in place, see how you can space the monitors evenly apart using the triangle method. From you image, I would at least try to move you desk away from the wall, and get the monitors out as far as possible to the sides, but since I can't figure out the exact length of you room, I can't figure out if it's at all possible to achieve something usefull according to the above advice.
But at least something is better then nothing, and you will experience some sort of improvement in you room...

My own project studio is also being crafted on a budget, and I will show later that it can be done both cheap but still professionally looking and not at least several times better in terms of audible improvements just by flexing those DIY skills.

Acoustic regulation is always the last resort when people can't figure out why their newly bought pro monitors sound crap in their own space.

But GL from here!

[esky]

Amen Mr. Furland, you made all the important points in your short summery (especially your last sentence). To take a look on several constructions i recommend the gearslutz pages:http://www.gearslutz.com/board/bass-tra ... -foam-etc/

[Furland]

Esky, this is actually a religion that you can adapt to, kind of technocratic in my taste. I am a deity of His Holyness Mr. Rockwool. He absorbs me and reflects infidel attacks! GS FTW anytime!

[#1thelark]

Mr. Rockwool? Then all you need is to rip your plasterboards from the wall and replace it with some cloth

[MPGK]

anytime this comes up...I recommend this :


he has several schemes for different budgets..including home studio types
actually.. I consider it a must have

I clicked to look inside and nothing happened... now I feel stupid.

[oblique strategies]

anytime this comes up...I recommend this :


he has several schemes for different budgets..including home studio types
actually.. I consider it a must have

I clicked to look inside and nothing happened... now I feel stupid.

I couldn't resist either!

[3dot...]

ME TOO

[heavensdaw]

And me!

Hd

[Cowlash]

Thanks for all the comments everyone, I finally finished this little project for now.

SubFunk After all the treatment, I still have a high metalic reverb tail and I may add more treatment at the back of the room. I cant really do anything with the speakers as I'm really pushed for an ideal space. I'm not going to complain though, we make the best of what we have

Furland Wow! thanks so much for the detailed reply! The major advice I took onboard was the holes in the sides of the traps. I had seen another company with holes down the side and wondered how I could do it. I remembered I had a 79mm hole cutting drill and made it work like hell for a few hours!

I uploaded a couple of pics last night for those that were interested in the project.

I still have to clean up the mess

[SubFunk]

^^^ smart

and how much of a sonic improvement is it?