i was having a similar problem. i'm on a new mac quad core with 8GB ram. with nothing on my live set at all i was getting the 'not enough memory' message whenever i tried to arm an audio track. midi was fine.
i have to say ableton support was very unhelpful. i discovered poking around that the 'maximum cache size' button was set to off. i never touched or looked at that before. i switched it on and all seems fine now. for now. i'm not sure if that has anything to do with all these other problems. but i would check that button in your preferences folder anyway.
The Not Enough Memory Issue
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rbmonosylabik
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
Thanks, unfortunately, it doesn't seem to fix the Looper related memory issuemr.big wrote:i was having a similar problem. i'm on a new mac quad core with 8GB ram. with nothing on my live set at all i was getting the 'not enough memory' message whenever i tried to arm an audio track. midi was fine.
i have to say ableton support was very unhelpful. i discovered poking around that the 'maximum cache size' button was set to off. i never touched or looked at that before. i switched it on and all seems fine now. for now. i'm not sure if that has anything to do with all these other problems. but i would check that button in your preferences folder anyway.
MBP 2.3 GHz i5, Live 9.6.1, Push, MPD32, Rane SL2
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StreetSoul
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
I'm so frustrated right now! Been working a couple of days on a new track which just crashes all the time now with the same message that everyone else here is getting! "There is not enough memory available."
Windows says that the ableton live uses about 1,6 gig of ram and i'm using a total of 2 gigs in windows with 4 gigs installed (i can use 3,5 gig on this 32 bit system) so i should have 1,5 gigs free to use!
I know that win 7 isn't officially supported yet but im pretty damn sure that this isn't a question about operatingsystem. People that is using mac having the same problem and the win XP-users aswell.
I don't think that it's acceptable to be aware of bugs like this for so long time and not manage to correct them.
We have paid for a working software but we end up frustrated with an unstable software that ruins HOURS of work!
Before u start with projects like "max4live" and "the bridge" why not make your customers 100% satisfied first... With a 100% working product!
I really hope that u fix this problem really soon so i can open up my project and continue working with it. Right now i can only open up and play the project. As soon as i start edit anything i get the "memory is not enough-message". Can't make a new "save as" saving or export the song. Everything i do makes it crash.
My system:
win 7 Ultimate 32 bit, 4 gig of ddr3 RAM, Intel I5 processor, Virus TI as soundcard, korg kontrol49 and ableton suite 8.0.9.
There is no looper in project or not even any big wav-files.
What's the status at the ableton HQ... Are u even close of making a bugfix for this one?
Windows says that the ableton live uses about 1,6 gig of ram and i'm using a total of 2 gigs in windows with 4 gigs installed (i can use 3,5 gig on this 32 bit system) so i should have 1,5 gigs free to use!
I know that win 7 isn't officially supported yet but im pretty damn sure that this isn't a question about operatingsystem. People that is using mac having the same problem and the win XP-users aswell.
I don't think that it's acceptable to be aware of bugs like this for so long time and not manage to correct them.
We have paid for a working software but we end up frustrated with an unstable software that ruins HOURS of work!
Before u start with projects like "max4live" and "the bridge" why not make your customers 100% satisfied first... With a 100% working product!
I really hope that u fix this problem really soon so i can open up my project and continue working with it. Right now i can only open up and play the project. As soon as i start edit anything i get the "memory is not enough-message". Can't make a new "save as" saving or export the song. Everything i do makes it crash.
My system:
win 7 Ultimate 32 bit, 4 gig of ddr3 RAM, Intel I5 processor, Virus TI as soundcard, korg kontrol49 and ableton suite 8.0.9.
There is no looper in project or not even any big wav-files.
What's the status at the ableton HQ... Are u even close of making a bugfix for this one?
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StreetSoul
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
Isn't there anyone who has come up with some idea how to solve this problem?
What's up at the ableton HQ ?
What's up at the ableton HQ ?
Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
The same problem here on a Macbook OS 10.6.2
Using Loopers in different channels simultaniously, after a while of playing around with it, Live does not save anymore.
The support suggested to upgrade to 4GB memory which I did, but the problem still occurs.
I would be delighted about a solution to this.
Using Loopers in different channels simultaniously, after a while of playing around with it, Live does not save anymore.
The support suggested to upgrade to 4GB memory which I did, but the problem still occurs.
I would be delighted about a solution to this.
Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
Mine is still doing it. In fact the second to last Beta (.3) was worse than any version of 8 before. The sucka could only last 30 min before Live was no longer usable. I was using a rack with 8 Loopers in it. Previous version of 8 would work for around 2 hours before dying.
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blob_carve
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
I'm getting an error when I try and save. The error message states, "There is not enough memory available. Please save your Live Set now and quit." I only get this error message when I TRY AND SAVE! So how the fuck am I supposed to SAVE THE GOD DAMN FILE IF I GET THIS EVERY TIME I TRY AND SAVE !?!?!?! FIX THIS BUG ASSHOLES IT WAS REPORTED ALMOST A YEAR AGO !
I'm using a MacBook Pro running OSX 10.5.8 with 4GB Ram and 560 MB are free according to my iStat Pro widget. The amount of free RAM decreased to 356 after freezing the tracks as suggested in a previous post in this thread. I have no ( exactly zero ) clips at all in my Live Set, just tracks routing audio through looper and other effects. I deleted most of the other (non looper) effects because Live has bugged out this same way with this same useless message at least 3 times in the past 9 hours and I was trying to decrease memory requirements. I've been saving often because Live has not ever been able to recover my work after these absolutely ridiculously useless error messages appear on my screen. I can send you a copy of my live set if you request it via email from me. This should really be fixed.
I'm using a MacBook Pro running OSX 10.5.8 with 4GB Ram and 560 MB are free according to my iStat Pro widget. The amount of free RAM decreased to 356 after freezing the tracks as suggested in a previous post in this thread. I have no ( exactly zero ) clips at all in my Live Set, just tracks routing audio through looper and other effects. I deleted most of the other (non looper) effects because Live has bugged out this same way with this same useless message at least 3 times in the past 9 hours and I was trying to decrease memory requirements. I've been saving often because Live has not ever been able to recover my work after these absolutely ridiculously useless error messages appear on my screen. I can send you a copy of my live set if you request it via email from me. This should really be fixed.
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aklisiewicz
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
adding more RAM doesn't change anything. I have 8Gb and have same problems.
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
aklisiewicz wrote:adding more RAM doesn't change anything. I have 8Gb and have same problems.
Arthur
you're right. I ordered an extra gig to open a set that i'd worked on for months.. still nuthin. same problem occurred. no option to save either, can only force quit.
Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
not enough memory message
the memory limit under windows 7 64 bit is around 5 Go with 6 Go of physical RAM
so around 80% of the available physical memory
the memory limit under windows 7 64 bit is around 5 Go with 6 Go of physical RAM
so around 80% of the available physical memory
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
Hey Ableton - how about fixing this fundamental liability BEFORE coming up with brand new features for Live 9?! I think we'd all just be happy with a perfectly working - non-crashing - version of Live 8... call that "Live 9" if you want (and then charge us a ridiculous amount for the upgrade).
Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
"A serious program error has occurred.
Live will shut down after this message box is closed.
out of memory."
there are no audio clips in my default set and all I have is a couple instances of Maschine engaged with nothing in them. This happens just leaving Live 8.1.3 running and walking away from the computer for 20min. This kind of business has been happening since installing 8.
Off and on user here since v2, I'm thinking some sort of discount would be fair for this year long beta test.
3 gigs of Ram win 7
Live will shut down after this message box is closed.
out of memory."
there are no audio clips in my default set and all I have is a couple instances of Maschine engaged with nothing in them. This happens just leaving Live 8.1.3 running and walking away from the computer for 20min. This kind of business has been happening since installing 8.
Off and on user here since v2, I'm thinking some sort of discount would be fair for this year long beta test.
3 gigs of Ram win 7
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timothyallan
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Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
I just started getting out of memory errors on the latest beta when loading a set. It spins my hd up like a mofo and then dumps the errors in my face.
Then I reload the project and all works great... for the next 4 saves or so.
Then I reload the project and all works great... for the next 4 saves or so.
Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
I am also having the same issues running a Mac Pro with 8 Gig of memory. The Problem occurs and looking in activity monitor it says I am only running 2-3 gig of the 8 available.
Lets be totally blunt - THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE for a professional piece of software that I and many other use in a studio situation on a daily basis to earn our livings.
I have just read all these posts and it seems that no-one at Ableton HQ has the courage come out 'this is a major error' and we are working on it..... sorry - just a lot of suggested workarounds from them and this is simply not good enough.
A week after I sent an email about this to tech support I received this reply:
does it really happen when freezing a track? From the crash logs, crashes seem to occur after doing all kind of actions. The main reason is that you are 'out of memory', probaby caused by the vast amount of plugins you are using. Try to reduce the set or freeze/flatten some tracks.
erm....vast amount of plugin - 30 tracks with about half of them using third party AU's - as a studio 'professional' a don't call this vast, I call this necessary, unless of course Abletons target market is teenagers running 3 audio tracks and pretending to be a dutch trance/ringtone DJ's ?
And as for the workaround: a/ this is sold as a professional piece of software - why should it even need a workaround and b/ this workaround does NOT work because, when you get to the point of needing to freeze tracks to stop the problem, you're already 'out of memory' !!!
It feels like we are in the 1990's of technology here it terms of stability and reliability. I am also getting latency issues - some days fine, some days with big sets don't even think about playing a drum part in.
It reminds me of living in rural Italy a few years ago where due to frequent power cuts I had to save every few mins to avoid problems and that is how I feel about Live currently - its got too unstable and too unreliable to work with 8-10 hours a day in a professional environment.
This is a terrible tragedy and they need to a/ fix the issues and b/ fix the perception that we all loved (ie Live is STABLE)
Bit of a rant but I am VERY VERY pee'd off as its effecting the quality of my work day EVERY DAY
Lets be totally blunt - THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE for a professional piece of software that I and many other use in a studio situation on a daily basis to earn our livings.
I have just read all these posts and it seems that no-one at Ableton HQ has the courage come out 'this is a major error' and we are working on it..... sorry - just a lot of suggested workarounds from them and this is simply not good enough.
A week after I sent an email about this to tech support I received this reply:
does it really happen when freezing a track? From the crash logs, crashes seem to occur after doing all kind of actions. The main reason is that you are 'out of memory', probaby caused by the vast amount of plugins you are using. Try to reduce the set or freeze/flatten some tracks.
erm....vast amount of plugin - 30 tracks with about half of them using third party AU's - as a studio 'professional' a don't call this vast, I call this necessary, unless of course Abletons target market is teenagers running 3 audio tracks and pretending to be a dutch trance/ringtone DJ's ?
And as for the workaround: a/ this is sold as a professional piece of software - why should it even need a workaround and b/ this workaround does NOT work because, when you get to the point of needing to freeze tracks to stop the problem, you're already 'out of memory' !!!
It feels like we are in the 1990's of technology here it terms of stability and reliability. I am also getting latency issues - some days fine, some days with big sets don't even think about playing a drum part in.
It reminds me of living in rural Italy a few years ago where due to frequent power cuts I had to save every few mins to avoid problems and that is how I feel about Live currently - its got too unstable and too unreliable to work with 8-10 hours a day in a professional environment.
This is a terrible tragedy and they need to a/ fix the issues and b/ fix the perception that we all loved (ie Live is STABLE)
Bit of a rant but I am VERY VERY pee'd off as its effecting the quality of my work day EVERY DAY
Re: The Not Enough Memory Issue
Hi Int Feel,
I don't think the number of tracks or of plugins is so relevant here - we know of very well known artists that run Live shows with about 200 tracks and thousands of clips, without reaching the memory limit.
Aren't there plugins playing large multi-sample Libraries in your set, or, have you put all of the audio clips into RAM? There could as well be a bug, but to find this out we would need your Live set. In other words, you may be able to figure out which track(s) in the set eat up so much RAM by yourself. We're happy to help if you can't figure out.
Live is a 32 bits application, and as answered at the beginning of this very thread (http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=900623#p900623), can only access up to 4 Go of memory on Mac OSX. This is true to any 32 bits application. It's of course obvious that making Live a 64 bits application is desirable, but we are not yet there.
Again, if you're using Live for months or years, in a professional environment and without running into these problems, I'd guess you can either figure out what is causing the Live set to reach the memory limit, or you experience a bug that we could reproduce.
We're happy to help if you need our support. There are probably ways to save your current work, and finish the song, if that's what is important to you today. You know how to reach me privately.
Kind regards,
Amaury
I don't think the number of tracks or of plugins is so relevant here - we know of very well known artists that run Live shows with about 200 tracks and thousands of clips, without reaching the memory limit.
Aren't there plugins playing large multi-sample Libraries in your set, or, have you put all of the audio clips into RAM? There could as well be a bug, but to find this out we would need your Live set. In other words, you may be able to figure out which track(s) in the set eat up so much RAM by yourself. We're happy to help if you can't figure out.
Live is a 32 bits application, and as answered at the beginning of this very thread (http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=900623#p900623), can only access up to 4 Go of memory on Mac OSX. This is true to any 32 bits application. It's of course obvious that making Live a 64 bits application is desirable, but we are not yet there.
Again, if you're using Live for months or years, in a professional environment and without running into these problems, I'd guess you can either figure out what is causing the Live set to reach the memory limit, or you experience a bug that we could reproduce.
We're happy to help if you need our support. There are probably ways to save your current work, and finish the song, if that's what is important to you today. You know how to reach me privately.
Kind regards,
Amaury
Ableton Product Team