How long will you wait to upgrade to Live 9?

[gp23]

Current financial situation means that I may not at all. I almost didn't last time but for that coupon. Still, I'm happy with 8 at the moment.

[SubFunk]

I would definitely beta test an available version too and very likely upgrade when available... that said... I just don't think Live 9 would be released anytime soon.

They're battling a negative image with all this unstable talk, so I would imagine that bug fixes remain a priority for a while.

+1

coming out with 9 anywhere near would be the stupidest thing ableton could do marketing wise.

they have to ensure to restore their highly damaged reputation with 8 first, and maybe even implement a few missing baby basics within some free upgrades within 8, once 8 is stable for much more people then now again.

within 8, they still have a buffer to mess it up... 9 needs to be way over any expectation possible to restore their image, way, way over expectations, they need to work so hard on it that they surprise themselves, otherwise it's a fail.

they messed it so badly up, that they have to work now quadruple (and even more) hard on it.

[squelcht]

I would definitely beta test an available version too and very likely upgrade when available... that said... I just don't think Live 9 would be released anytime soon.

They're battling a negative image with all this unstable talk, so I would imagine that bug fixes remain a priority for a while.

+1

coming out with 9 anywhere near would be the stupidest thing ableton could do marketing wise.

they have to ensure to restore their highly damaged reputation with 8 first, and maybe even implement a few missing baby basics within some free upgrades within 8, once 8 is stable for much more people then now again.

within 8, they still have a buffer to mess it up... 9 needs to be way over any expectation possible to restore their image, way, way over expectations, they need to work so hard on it that they surprise themselves, otherwise it's a fail.

they messed it so badly up, that they have to work now quadruple (and even more) hard on it.

My thoughts as well.

I also wonder too if they would just push 8 behind them & charge straight onto a newer coded version with 9 and try to forget v8 like a dead hooker in your trunk. Don't you remember the videos they posted looking for employment in the tech/code/programmer department? Its like they knew they made some monster with 8 after its deployment onto the market & then started over from scratch with new developers for v9. Because ya know---Technology companys are always versions ahead of there current available products.

Personally v9 would have to have some badass newer toys inside it & some extended money back guarantee would have to be implemented. I'm just saying.

[Slightlydelic]

8 works just fine for me, i dont particualrly want or need any other features written into it so upgrading live is probably the least likly place my money would go.

[simpli.cissimus]

Nobody pays for a new software when he payed for one that didn't work for
him before, and I think that Ableton knows that and work to make the actual version stable.

Going to the next version is not a proper way to go...

[squelcht]

Nobody pays for a new software when he payed for one that didn't work for
him before, and I think that Ableton knows that and work to make the actual version stable.

Going to the next version is not a proper way to go...

Unless they offer a really special upgrade incentive???

[zenadine]

well 8 was pretty stable for me until the last update.....now disc dropouts are common and shut downs frequent..


shame as i love this DAW but damn if this isnt making it hard to work with


Im seriously considering Studio One as I need a new audio interface soon anyway....

[cids]

Really useless topic...

[zenadine]

yeah useless topic


ill start a new one.."Yippee Live works fine, 97% of the time"

[kb420]

Really useless topic...

Really useless post!!!!

[HeadrickProductions]

I would definitely beta test an available version too and very likely upgrade when available... that said... I just don't think Live 9 would be released anytime soon.

They're battling a negative image with all this unstable talk, so I would imagine that bug fixes remain a priority for a while.

+1

coming out with 9 anywhere near would be the stupidest thing ableton could do marketing wise.

they have to ensure to restore their highly damaged reputation with 8 first, and maybe even implement a few missing baby basics within some free upgrades within 8, once 8 is stable for much more people then now again.

within 8, they still have a buffer to mess it up... 9 needs to be way over any expectation possible to restore their image, way, way over expectations, they need to work so hard on it that they surprise themselves, otherwise it's a fail.

they messed it so badly up, that they have to work now quadruple (and even more) hard on it.

My thoughts as well.

I also wonder too if they would just push 8 behind them & charge straight onto a newer coded version with 9 and try to forget v8 like a dead hooker in your trunk. Don't you remember the videos they posted looking for employment in the tech/code/programmer department? Its like they knew they made some monster with 8 after its deployment onto the market & then started over from scratch with new developers for v9. Because ya know---Technology companys are always versions ahead of there current available products.

Personally v9 would have to have some badass newer toys inside it & some extended money back guarantee would have to be implemented. I'm just saying.

+1 I second the money back guarantee but it will never happen. They should after this last year, but it would set a horrible trend for the DAW industry. It would be great for the customer's but since you could just by the software and burn it, they can't possibly issue a money back guarantee.

Which leaves the consumer SCREWED.

Any other product performing this poorly and we'd get refunds

[dab]

Seems like Ableton, in order to generate money went to fast with implementing MFL,
which caused buggy code for Live. I can see this great audio application turn to
bloatware in the future, but do hope I’m wrong. Time will tell, but I’m already
looking at other options for a daw just in case I have to migrate.

[oblique strategies]

Ableton is doing the right thing in making sure that Live 8 is stable before embarking on Live 9.

Apple did a similar thing with their Leopard to Snow Leopard release:

"At WWDC 2008, Bertrand Serlet announced a move that he described as "unprecedented" in the PC industry.

That's right, the next major release of Mac OS X would have no new features. The product name reflected this: "Snow Leopard." Mac OS X 10.6 would merely be a variant of Leopard. Better, faster, more refined, more... uh... snowy.

This was a risky strategy for Apple. After the rapid-fire updates of 10.1, 10.2, and 10.3 followed by the riot of new features and APIs in 10.4 and 10.5, could Apple really get away with calling a "time out?" I imagine Bertrand was really sweating this announcement up on the stage at WWDC in front of a live audience of Mac developers. Their reaction? Spontaneous applause."

[arafel]

If only Apple took the same approach to Logic (just make your 'features' work)... well I would still be using it.

Instead I found Live. It has been a real joy, and I stopped updating at 8.05.

The Abes commitment to stability & usability is a huge factor in riding out this '8-glitch'.
IMHO - That they have communicated so publicly is a hallmark of commitment to me.. their customer.

I will not be beta testing.. there will be little point, as I'm not a power user and I'm on out-dated equipment.
Would anyone really care about bugs on an old PPC mac with an OX 2/3 versions behind?

I would wait to update to 9.. well until Oblique & Subfunk are knee deep in 9 and screaming its praises.
Until then I'll stay behind the curve and productive.

[AceLuby]

I won't be updating unless they come up w/ some feature that would absolutely make or break my set. Seeing as I can't think of a feature that would make me do that I think it would be pretty safe to say that I won't be an early adopter to 9.

Hell, I'm still figuring out everything I can do w/ 8.