Ableton Live and Traktor on the same laptop? Possible?

tomperson · Post by **tomperson** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:32 pm

Is it possible to run traktor and live on the same laptop at once, syncrhonized via midi and using the same ASIO host?

Anyone doing it?

Benjamin B · Post by **Benjamin B** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:06 pm

I can't get it to work.... I have Traktor 2.5.3, Live 4.1.1, and an m-audio firewire audiophile. I can only run one at a time... when I run Live then start Traktor, Traktor will not recognize the sound card. Same happens when i start with Traktor and try to run Live. Dunno if there's a way to get it to work or not.

spiderprod · Post by **spiderprod** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:15 pm

nop , they can't work together yet

tekkers · Post by **tekkers** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:30 pm

it would be great if they did - i'd use live to drop in loops and have synced vsti instruments... and mix with traktor dj style... at the end of the day for me ableton is a production tool...syncing it with a specialised dj program like traktor would be so damm good.

djastroboy · Post by **djastroboy** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:37 pm

Works perfect here. Well, with the restriction that Traktor must be the master clock.
I have an Echo Indigo (well actually two, a DJ & an IO) and it has a little mixer that lets you merge together the output from multiple apps.
Don't all soundcards have multiple client ability?

tekkers · Post by **tekkers** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:41 pm

ahh i have heard about the indigo and its multiple client drivers - no not all soundcards do... i have an m audio firewire 410 and it doesnt allow it..

unless i am wrong - hopefully!

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:47 pm

check out Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) - I can get it to work between different apps on XP. But have found it more robust just to manually wire in/out channels on my audio interface.

tomperson · Post by **tomperson** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:48 pm

So, we have to get an INDIGO? OR TWO???

djastroboy · Post by **djastroboy** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:58 pm

Not necessarily an Indigo, just some audio card that lets more that one app connect to it.
When you go shopping, don't be shy: bug the manufacturer to promise that it will do what you want. I've wasted so much many by reading too much into spec sheets and imagining that a piece of gear will do what I want...

I have two Indigos because one has two outputs for live use, one for main out and one for cueing. At home I use the one called the IO because is has one output and one Input. Sorry to scare you:)

nobbystylus · Post by **nobbystylus** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:52 pm

On a Mac you could use JackOSX to route both applications audio via Jack to the built in audio (or external card), and probably use IAC to send midi from one to the other.. aint tried it though!

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:07 am

I have one IndigoDJ .. works fine for me. I only have one pcmcia card slot so I dont know what I would do with another indigo??

virtual outs you see, it comes with its own little software mixer routing thing so you can route headphones outs from both headphones sections of Live and Traktor easily.

I didn't realise it was so rare for this to work, I know it doesnt on my desktop though - I just assumed it was old soundcard symptoms

djastroboy · Post by **djastroboy** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:19 am

Angstrom wrote:I have one IndigoDJ .. works fine for me. I only have one pcmcia card slot so I dont know what I would do with another indigo??

The real bummer is that I have two PCMCIA slots, two Indigos and I still can't use 'em both at once because the slots are on top of each other and the shape of the part of the Indigo that sticks out of the side of the computer precludes having them inserted at the same time.

tomperson · Post by **tomperson** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:09 pm

OK, seems like another good reason to get an INDIGO DJ!!!

Lets get this straight: with which soundcards we are positive it doesn't work? So far it seems that only the INDIGO series will let both applications run together...

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:21 pm

djastroboy wrote:
Angstrom wrote:I have one IndigoDJ .. works fine for me. I only have one pcmcia card slot so I dont know what I would do with another indigo??
The real bummer is that I have two PCMCIA slots, two Indigos and I still can't use 'em both at once because the slots are on top of each other and the shape of the part of the Indigo that sticks out of the side of the computer precludes having them inserted at the same time.

i doubt you could use two indigo simultaneously even if you had well-spaced slots. Only one asio driver is supported at any one time. you need either a card with a greater number of channels or a card that lets you use your internal soundcard in parallel. (i.e. i route the audio-out of my laptop's own soundcard into the indigo audio-in.)

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:23 pm

or asio4all... ? Has anyone tried it? I don't think there are laptops with one pcmcia on either side, are there?