Ableton suitable for megamixing?

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:22 pm

Hi there,

just wanted to know if Ableton is a good program to do megamixes on.

Hope you all know that I mean with Megamixes.

Perhaps Adobe Audition is more suitable to do the stuff I like to do, or is it Acid? You see guys, I have no clue what to do, maybe you can help me out.

Thanks for your answers.

Reagards, Havoc

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:27 pm

Havoc wrote: Hope you all know that I mean with Megamixes.

Sorry, I'm not sure what this means. Is what a "superstar DJ" makes by chance?

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:29 pm

Yeah,
you do it just with your PC.

Its like Dj Deep does it.

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:30 pm

is it like the JiveBunny megamixes? Or the whole Abba catalogue in 5 minutes, all merged into one stomping floorfiller anthem?

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:32 pm

You've got it, mate =)

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:44 pm

haha, cool.

I've used Acid in the past to do 70 minute mixes of commercial tracks; not much artistic imput by me, but Acid was very easy and straightforward for perfectly blending tracks together for bpm and some tweaking with EQ to fade out bass between tracks, repeat some sections that could do with a few more bars looping etc. Acid's linear approach I personally find very easy to use. It's very similar to Live's arrange window, but just seems a bit more accessible, Perhaps it is just a matter of what you are used to.

If you want to chop up some clips of some wellknown tunes and remix them together with your own drums, bassline & samples etc. Then pick any of the big name tools like Acid, Live, or even Cubase/Logic. Adobe Audition has a lot of tools like Acid in it as well, so I'm sure that'll work if you already have it. It is possible that Adobe is already as good as you need, half your work will be looking for good sections to extract from the original tunes, and building a structure. Adobe is first and foremost an audio sample editor, and you'll need to do a lot of that.

Live excells when it comes to loopbased composition; and can handle the linear style aswell.

Don't know what to tell you really - you'll need to put a bit of work into making your end production sound half decent no matter what you use. So, if you are just starting out, spend a bit of time playing around with Adobe first before thinking of buying another set of tools.

orage · Post by **orage** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:21 am

I believe I read somewhere that Strictly Kev's "Raiding the 20th Century" was arranged primarily in ProTools.

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:47 am

havoc, I think I misunderstood "megamix" ... I'd only heard use of mega in reference to so-naff-it-will-be-cool-again-soon 80's Stock-Aitken & Waterman epics

looks interesting though. I'm a big fan of DJ Food so I'm going to check out this Strictly Kev stuff.

If you can, post some links with more info.

Currently I'm guessing it is a collage of recordings of all sorts, with no genre boundaries, cut together? I have some great old Orb/FSOL mixes with bits of Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Beatles etc dropping in all over ambientronica and strangeness, wonder if that's similar (?). Maybe in the same vein, There was a bootleg set of discs knocking around a year or two ago called Deck Safari with the two guys from Air raiding their vinyl collection.

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:14 am

... listening to Raiding the 20th C.(WFMU are hosting it at 192k on a big server) I reckon you'll need something like Protools, Logic, Cubase or Acid for something like this.

sounds like 2manyDJs.

dj metronome · Post by **dj metronome** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:57 am

Is Live good for Mega mixing? With all the filters and eq's that come with live and all the tricks you can do with audio, but you would need a good sample editor, so you could chop up parts of a song, wave lab has a great loop editor, you can get the essentials version for $100 bucks, Hell yea! Live is good for Mega mixing!

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:30 am

Thanks for replies guys.

I've posted a link here: http://www.unat.tk/ what it means to do megamixing. Particularly one can say, that megamixing stands for alota songs played in a short time.

You cut several songs together which fit to each other. Sometimes you put several songs together with one bassline, which is equal.

Can anyone give me the link to that Raiding 20th. century?, would be nice.

@ metronome: Doesn't megamixing only consists of chopping up songs? I thought it was mainly the most stuff you have to do. So why should I use Ableton at all, when you can use Wavelab for cutting, you ain't do much with filters, think so?!

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:44 am

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ht=raiding

Raiding the 20th century.

edit: there are a few different servers and different mixes listed there.

-Ben

dj metronome · Post by **dj metronome** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:07 pm

@ metronome: Doesn't megamixing only consists of chopping up songs?

I would chop song parts and remix them together with a common beat structure so that the tempo wouldn’t jump every where. Recycle can handle up to 5 minute files. Chop, recycle, and remix. It wouldn’t be a simple cut and paste. Eq's and filters are the only way we have to un mix a song. To take frequencies out.

dj metronome · Post by **dj metronome** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:17 pm

I would like to add also, you need to have perfect loops that make since musically. It's like making a song with drum loops, but using loops of song parts instead

SimonPHC · Post by **SimonPHC** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:34 pm

shure Live can do this. I did it, and some other guy I know told me he did it.
and what extra cool is that you can do it LIVE too ...

why bother with all the audio editing apps, when al you need to do is warp, select and consolidate?

Ableton suitable for megamixing?

Ableton suitable for megamixing?

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