Let's Talk About copyright issues

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Re: Let's Talk About copyright issues

Post by memes_33 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:18 pm

here is a great book on copyright law and how it has become a tool for powerful corporations to protect their own profits. yes, its about law, but it is a very easy, fast read with lots of interesting examples (i am no lawyer, just a big fan of sampling).

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Free-C ... 1594200069

also, this lawyer in Cali deals only with this sort of thing for musicians, if you have a little skrill & want someone else to do the leg work

http://www.alankorn.com/
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Re: Let's Talk About copyright issues

Post by DangerousDave » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:48 pm

memes_33 wrote:here is a great book on copyright law and how it has become a tool for powerful corporations to protect their own profits. yes, its about law, but it is a very easy, fast read with lots of interesting examples (i am no lawyer, just a big fan of sampling).

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Free-C ... 1594200069

also, this lawyer in Cali deals only with this sort of thing for musicians, if you have a little skrill & want someone else to do the leg work
http://www.alankorn.com/
Great finds, I will definitely have to look into both of them. Thanks for the advice memes 8)
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Re: Let's Talk About copyright issues

Post by dan le sac » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:19 pm

Hi Dave,

Some of the digital distributors use software to scan for "musical fingerprints" whilst encoding it for the various digital stores, so it might get spotted even if no human hears it, in this case someone like Interscope or tunecore would just refuse to distro for you.

When we sampled Radiohead we had to spend months trying to get it cleared, sampling is awkward because you have to clear it with both the Publisher & Sound Recording owner (Label or Artist), so you really have to decide whether its worth trying to sell it, if the sample is of anything major/famous then the Publisher & Label may both want an advance from you (or your label) which can work out expensive. Also the percentage of royalties the copyright owners can demand from you is unregulated in most territories, to get our Radiohead sample cleared we ended up having to give away 90% of our royalties on the track & an advance.

So basically is it worth you selling the track? You might find just giving away with the help of RCRDLBL or Hypem could be far more beneficial to your career.

Anyway, i hope that helps.
dan le sac
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Re: Let's Talk About copyright issues

Post by DangerousDave » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:53 pm

dan le sac wrote:Hi Dave,

Some of the digital distributors use software to scan for "musical fingerprints" whilst encoding it for the various digital stores, so it might get spotted even if no human hears it, in this case someone like Interscope or tunecore would just refuse to distro for you.

When we sampled Radiohead we had to spend months trying to get it cleared, sampling is awkward because you have to clear it with both the Publisher & Sound Recording owner (Label or Artist), so you really have to decide whether its worth trying to sell it, if the sample is of anything major/famous then the Publisher & Label may both want an advance from you (or your label) which can work out expensive. Also the percentage of royalties the copyright owners can demand from you is unregulated in most territories, to get our Radiohead sample cleared we ended up having to give away 90% of our royalties on the track & an advance.

So basically is it worth you selling the track? You might find just giving away with the help of RCRDLBL or Hypem could be far more beneficial to your career.

Anyway, i hope that helps.
dan le sac
Indeed that does help, thank you sir. Always good to hear some first hand experience. You paid a lot for that sample!
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Re: Let's Talk About copyright issues

Post by dan le sac » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:21 am

We did indeed! But it was worth it in the end...
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Re: Let's Talk About copyright issues

Post by TCONELLYJOTYAS » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:19 am

Does anyone know about sampling from Speeches?? Like spoken word? Because its not like a song just someone else saying something?

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Re: Let's Talk About copyright issues

Post by contakt321 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:07 pm

Same rules apply to speeches, movies, tv, etc.

Read my earlier posts.

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