Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by bynoe » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:46 pm

It's great to hear that people are still using Harware samplers. Dusted my S3000xl off a few months back and remembered all the fun I used to have with it. Things were so much simpler back then and I produced so many tracks with just that, a Juno 106 and cubase. Now I spend all my time playing with VST's and weird plugin effects. :cry:

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by MacGuffin » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:57 pm

alex.the.forge wrote:
MacGuffin wrote:I'm getting a TX16w for dirt cheap, Typhoon 2000 OS looks really cool! (programmed by the guy who did the Microtonic VST)

anyone have general advice on that weird gem?
a strange beast, but I really couldn't imagine any reason to endure the interface and lack of sample time of any of those old samplers really
well basically I'm going to use it as a glorified drum machine/sample rate reducer. I'll record various drums at low sample rates, layer that with analogue sounds of my MFB-502, send to spring reverb, etc... It does have 8 separate outs, and Typhoon OS allows dynamic voice allocation.

basically, the "reason" is having all sorts of cool aliasing artifacts that don't sound like just a regular bitcrusher plugin.
I'm not going to stop using live's Sampler for complex stuff or drum racks for my main work.

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by contakt321 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:26 pm

That's basically how I use the SP1200 as well. I have a library of drums I have already processed through it, and then when making a new song, when I am almost done, I sample the sounds into the SP1200 and then back into Live.

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by nopattern » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:38 pm

im still rocking the korg esx, i dont know if that qualifies as old but i love that thing

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by john doe by choice » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:52 pm

I still use a Roland VP-9000 and a Boss SP-303 - I can get pretty crazy with either of them, as Roland effects really aren't that bad, but the VP-9000 is pretty deep as far as features go, and I don't think I've even scratched the surface.

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by Silverfish » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:56 am

nopattern, the ESX is great for what it is, but it's not without faults. Mine is currently MIA, as I'm saving up to take it to the repair shop to get some potentiometers replaced. That pesky knob jitter will be the downfall of those devices. If I were a musician/lawyer, I'd seriously look into a class action lawsuit (ahem, Neb :wink: :wink: )

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by nopattern » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:50 pm

ive heard about the jitter issues, i think i got lucky that mine doesnt have it. bought it second hand even

the esx sat around for a little while unused in my studio until i started recording it with a nice preamp :wink:

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Post by v00d00ppl » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:11 am

Still rocking the EPS classic. I usually let the numark pt-01 have the record spinning and chopping on this machine is so friggin easy. Decent sequencer as well and if i just want some punch to what I am chopping I sample @44.6, but if I want it filthy and muddy 11.0khz is the way to go and I just record into live directly for effects and mixdown

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by dbfs » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:50 am

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I do miss my su700.. :oops: Never should have sold that thing. There's something about the looping and the way it samples that is way different then doing it on a computer. It had a way of putting things in time(not just talking about tempo)on it's own and that was the real magical part about this hardware sampler. Sometimes you wouldn't sample something properly and boom you'd end up with something completely different then what you were intending only to find that the accident was way cooler because of this timing thing. It's kinda hard to explain, but I'm sure other know what I'm talking about.

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Post by v00d00ppl » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:30 am

dbfs......could you chop on the su700 or was it just for looping. How was the sequencer?

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Post by starving student » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:12 am

yes

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by dbfs » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:28 pm

Oh yeah! It had a sequencer alright. The loop pads would play a sample over and over back to back. The composed loops would play by the length of the sequenced loop you had setup. Good for a snare hit or one shot type samples that you wanted to loop every 8 bars or something. The free pads were just like triggered samples that could be played at anytime and they and didn't really follow any timing. While the others did. And then you had the 4 banks on each side. So you had all those buttons for each bank. It was pretty slick for it's time, still is actually.

You could setup the start and end markers on the samples, and do all kinds of stuff to them. It really had a lot of features. The ribbon pad on the side was awesome. Could set it to whatever you wanted, like volume, effects 1-3, pan, filters, there was more but I can't even remember everything off the top of my head.. It was great for filter sweeps though. Just slide your finger up or down. It was nice. But the way it lined up samples that had no tempo was amazing. Especially like people talking, solo instruments that were kind of noodling, had no real time or tempo.. Stuff of that nature would lock in, in a way you couldn't even have planned.

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by contakt321 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:34 pm

If you get a chance, check out the artists Ghosts on Tape, he plays live on two of those Yamaha SU700s

Amazing live show, rocks the crowd while loading endless floppies.

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Post by v00d00ppl » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:41 pm

contakt321 wrote:If you get a chance, check out the artists Ghosts on Tape, he plays live on two of those Yamaha SU700s

Amazing live show, rocks the crowd while loading endless floppies.


Can you load floppies and mash up pads at rye same
time or do you have to wait?

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Re: Harware Samplers - anyone still rock them?

Post by contakt321 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:14 pm

v00d00ppl wrote:
contakt321 wrote:If you get a chance, check out the artists Ghosts on Tape, he plays live on two of those Yamaha SU700s

Amazing live show, rocks the crowd while loading endless floppies.


Can you load floppies and mash up pads at rye same
time or do you have to wait?
I don't know TBH

I know Ghosts on Tape uses 2 of them on stage, not sure if he is switching back and forth or what.

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