scrumed software?

[H20nly]

it's 3phase.

if the fuckwit knew what kind of mice the people at Ableton used he'd rally that into a source of all bugs.

isn't this a Lounge topic? this has nothing to do with Music or Audio Production.

sure it does. 3Phase is prepping us for the announcement of his very own DAW software. yep. it never has problems. it runs forever. its been through the most rigorous testing with every possible combination of hardware and software available AND unavailable so that it runs flawlessly without updates. you don't even need hands to use it and the jitter ooooh the jitter is... well i don't wanna ruin the surprise. i've said too much.

[Poster]

it's 3phase.

if the fuckwit knew what kind of mice the people at Ableton used he'd rally that into a source of all bugs.

isn't this a Lounge topic? this has nothing to do with Music or Audio Production.

hhmm.. you're right..

time for another 3phase cancellation test..

[3phase]

I got put off the whole SCRUM thing as soon as I saw that one of the 'Roles' (or whatever) in it is called 'Scrum Master'.

Now that's just stupid. I'll stick with my TDD and boring old standard PM stuff ta.

The whole scrum thing and in fact most of these fashionable new PM approaches are full of such buzz words etc these days which many many of them bvery hard to take seriously. Behind the labels and all the BS etc, it isnt new as the persons who probably lay claim to inventing it might claim.

Interative customer/user friendly and communicative development processes have been around for years and many more enlightened companies have been working that way for ages quite happily and very sucessfully. The problem I see alot these days is alot of the project managers I come across now seem to have envolving from project/business operations/admin rather than development and quite honestly are completely clueless (and worse dont even care) about the techincal aspects of a project, and practical realities etc, so they in effect get reduced to bean counters and facilitators (as they also lack the charisma to be effective leaders too). Scrum seems to give a bit of a nod to this and I guess thats part of why it has been so popular - a person can now effectively exist in what should be a management role witth subordinate role experience without really having the responsibility and experience that normally goes with it. The problem you then get - without responsibility and experience - try getting any respect beyond basic professional courtesy from those you working with

Now sometimes you get really lucky and find a PM/Dev lead practicing a scrum like process and they actually have technical (dev/test/analysis and maybe a bit of all ideally) experience as well as well having enough time in lead roles as well to actually not need a process framework such as this. When such people work within such a process then it can and does work really well. Agile methods are abslutetly no subsitutue for having well thought out architectue and a good realistic plan though and if anything Ive found they need to be more solid for agile to work well to ensure focus is maintained, otherwise it too easily dissolves into randomized chaos in the wrong hands.

it sounds positive.. but is it really? why does it remind to the procedrere employes of komunist factorys had to go thru? the stalinist routine.. now as new invention for the biz consultant.

and as any komunist country was able to claim.. the ritual is only for the good of the comunity..

the team can work free and creative, going for the good solutions.. as long they deliver in time..
the 5 years plan needs to be fullfilled...

All the talk about flexiblility and gearing towards customer needs is actually the reality how we work in the freelancers world..

because opposite to employes you only get payed for success, and you work for the customer satisfaction.. because only when they are willing to pay ..your employer pays you without beeing sewed.
As a good team max quality is what makes you a name..
not cheapest price and best slavish behaviour towards your employer...
Thats the fundamental difference between free lancers and employers....
Freelancers need to show and create quality, and quality is above the biz relation to an employer
because you have many.. and with bad quality you loose many.. with one employer beeing forced to sell better quality than he intended you only loose one of them.. and theese are actually the ones we call pig´s in the real world... they get fat on our work and want to sabotage our quality for the sake of more profit


question :

is the scrumming just a tactic to get the performance of creative freelance teams with employes?

and because there is no big money motivations there are theese scientology rituals where every pig has to declare itself?
the pigs are the only ones that are "alowed" to talk..

now its a priviledge.. and i former times they needed torture to make the pigs confess...

sorry... scrumming stinks..

it seems to be a snake oil product you can sell well to the owners of little companys.. you promisse them positive results.. control over willing employes that all like to be called pigs and chickens and to do the daily confession... the allmighty time scedule is the only ruler.. once in execution even the most stupid plan has to be fullfilled...
sorry.. the collaps of the soviet union is some kind of proove that this is maybe not really good for the biz in the long term

a sad tactics to even more ruin society, by reducing the individual freedom and clearing the term quality from its value?

the only personal responsebility is to fullfill the plan in time.. the plan itself is out of question and not your thing to discuss before the "sprint" is over.. as any failure is not a personal responsebility anymore because your got cleared in the daily meetings...

Scary...

[Tone Deft]

it's 3phase.

if the fuckwit knew what kind of mice the people at Ableton used he'd rally that into a source of all bugs.

isn't this a Lounge topic? this has nothing to do with Music or Audio Production.

sure it does. 3Phase is prepping us for the announcement of his very own DAW software. yep. it never has problems. it runs forever. its been through the most rigorous testing with every possible combination of hardware and software available AND unavailable so that it runs flawlessly without updates. you don't even need hands to use it and the jitter ooooh the jitter is... well i don't wanna ruin the surprise. i've said too much.

surely I'm not Pro enough to use a DAW 3phails would design.

[H20nly]

^ no one is. no one.

[Tone Deft]

LOL!!!!

[3phase]

h2o and tone deft..

the smartest boys around...



over 20000 mails without saying anything... !!! i am impressed... the real forum fuckwits..
out of question

[hoffman2k]

[H20nly]

3phase. Over 200,000,000,000 characters typed without saying........ much !!!

fuckwittery knows no bounds.

[3phase]

http://www.yummymummyscrummykids.co.uk/

[H20nly]

you're just mad cuz I announced your new DAW before you did.

[evilaci]

Scrum works!
But the managment has to "understand" this approach too.....

I think we will get great benefit as customers out of that.
I dont understand why they search a Scrum Master. This new role should take somebody from the current people of Ableton. Best is a voting.....
The Management should not be cheap for the scrum master training!
Just my 2 cents.

[3phase]

but dont you get real scrum masters only from the church? the ideal position for an influential external

[Khazul]

You get 'real' scrum masters after a two day course after which you get a certificate that says so. They should send their receptionist on the course
Its run by (suprise suprise), the guy wrote wrote lots of papers on it and made his name from it, and I guess probably quite a decent living too.

[glenn303]

I want me some scrum cakes right now!