tobybennett wrote:whatever plug-ins you use, stick to the native Ableton plug-ins when DJing. Live runs much better when not using VSTs or AUs. I play out a lot too, and I too fell victim to the Covert Operators way of using Live. I was using it as a video game. Dummy clips, complex routing, etc. I was so involved with trying to use Live in a way that no one else had, but I was missing the big picture. I just use a simple DJ Rack on each channel that I designed, 4 audio tracks, and an Akai APC40. All the tricks you can do with Live are great, but they don't sound too hot on the dance floor. I've seen DJs flange an entire track on the old Pioneer DJM-500 when it first came out. It was a cool little effect, but all people want to hear are quality tracks and great mixes. If you don't own them already, buy Platinum Notes and Mixed In Key and learn how to mix harmonically. (If you don't already know how.) In my opinion, forget the dummy clips and the 8 sends and all the gadgetry and concentrate on track selection. Just my opinion, hope it shed some light....
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I recently DJ'd my first gig with Ableton, I come from a vinyl 12" DJ background (A/B) and while I was concerned about the 100's of ways Live can manipulate tracks, my background in DJ'ing keeps me focused on tracks and I enjoy not messing with them too much - a good track speaks for itself. My set up is also to use the native plugins (even with production if I can stomach them) but more so for DJ use because of the drain on CPU. Since I A-B DJ in Live as well, I'll just through a effect rack on each of the tracks and set the macros to my controller. The effects are pretty common ones and used during long stretch sequences of a track where it is becomming mundane (like +16bars going nowhere).
So in this set up I don't have to use dummy clips, or a bunch of sends, etc. HOWEVER, that all being said, since it was my first gig, i did have this running question in my head all night askign "What more can I do with this, what can I add..." Sometimes we have to let go and keep it simple...