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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by funky shit » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:40 pm

poly analogue is win.
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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Just32 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:49 pm

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Is this usefull? How u do that? Its a special fabric ?

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:55 pm

Just32 wrote:Is this usefull? How u do that? Its a special fabric ?
excellent post of how to make and use them here:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 0#p1139670
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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Varoudis » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:21 pm

aqua_tek wrote:It's great. Mopho controls pretty much everything, except for one or two things that are the result of a bug in Tetra. I've been told these bugs are already being addressed in an upcoming Tetra OS update.

The integration in Multi-mode (i.e., 5 instances of mopho) works very well, but just in terms of workflow, may do well with a few modifications.

I understand how this may take some time to perfect, since the Mopho and Tetra weren't MADE to work exclusively with each other in multi-mode necessarily. I think DSI's main aim was to make them poly-chainable. Poly chaining works very well, and is quite easy to get going.

Still, the multi-mode thing is well thought out and in general, and works great, despite a few workflow things. With an update or two, I don't doubt they'll make it simpler and more "direct".
I only know about the poly-chain... what is the multi mode?combo mode?? info plz!! :D

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by aqua_tek » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:41 pm

multi-mode allows you to send four different MIDI tracks to all four voices of Tetra, essentially turning it into a multitimbral monosynth with 4 separate parts. Each voice behaves as a part, and is routed to each of the 4 analog outs in Tetra (voice 1 : out 1, voice 2 : out 2... etc.)

You can run multi-mode in program or in combo mode. Running it in program mode, just saves your multi as a single program. Running it in combo mode, you can browse four different programs for each part. A slightly confusing distinction but that's how it was explained to me. Lately i've been using multi-mode in program mode, since it's easier to initialize the patch in its entirety, and then I can just save it all as a single patch.

There might be some advantages to running it as a Combo, but I still need to look more into it.

The Mopho keyboard allows you to control and program each voice with its front panel, as opposed to having to do menu diving within Tetra to program (besides, you can't program Tetra from its own panel when multi-mode is on, so you're kind of forced to use an external programming / editing surface).

THE only caveat is that, if you don't turn local control off on the Mopho, you will be editing both, the Tetra's part AND the mopho itself. Gets a little tedious having to go into the global menu, changing midi channels, and then turning local control on or off. Luckily, I found a workaround using my MPC as a central MIDI "router" of sorts. Hopefully some OS updates for both Mopho and Tetra will make this a little easier, so we don't have to rely on trickery to make it work seamlessly.

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Machinesworking » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:55 am

@Aqua Tech nice solid set up!

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Homebelly » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:54 am

Mr Machine...

How is that memory moog holding up is it still nice and stable or does it drift out of tune much?
How old is it?
And, how does the Poly-evolver compare?...( probably a silly question really.. :oops: )
I used to have a little play on one if i was at the guys house and he was other wise occupied, all through my years of digital VA's and softsynths my memory of the moog has always been my yard stick.
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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Varoudis » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:20 am

aqua_tek wrote:multi-mode allows you to send four different MIDI tracks to all four voices of Tetra, essentially turning it into a multitimbral monosynth with 4 separate parts. Each voice behaves as a part, and is routed to each of the 4 analog outs in Tetra (voice 1 : out 1, voice 2 : out 2... etc.)

You can run multi-mode in program or in combo mode. Running it in program mode, just saves your multi as a single program. Running it in combo mode, you can browse four different programs for each part. A slightly confusing distinction but that's how it was explained to me. Lately i've been using multi-mode in program mode, since it's easier to initialize the patch in its entirety, and then I can just save it all as a single patch.

There might be some advantages to running it as a Combo, but I still need to look more into it.

The Mopho keyboard allows you to control and program each voice with its front panel, as opposed to having to do menu diving within Tetra to program (besides, you can't program Tetra from its own panel when multi-mode is on, so you're kind of forced to use an external programming / editing surface).

THE only caveat is that, if you don't turn local control off on the Mopho, you will be editing both, the Tetra's part AND the mopho itself. Gets a little tedious having to go into the global menu, changing midi channels, and then turning local control on or off. Luckily, I found a workaround using my MPC as a central MIDI "router" of sorts. Hopefully some OS updates for both Mopho and Tetra will make this a little easier, so we don't have to rely on trickery to make it work seamlessly.
you got me! Ill go for the mopho too sometime soon!!! :D :D I want the knobs!!!!!

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Just32 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:35 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
Just32 wrote:Is this usefull? How u do that? Its a special fabric ?
excellent post of how to make and use them here:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... 0#p1139670
Thanks man. BTW, what is the thing that is inside the "box" ?

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by MacGuffin » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:30 pm

^ insulation

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by IP » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:43 pm

rockwool

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Tarekith » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:57 pm

Just a heads up that GIK Acoustiks has broadband absorbers (the 244's) for only a little more than it would cost to build them yourself. I was all prepped to make my own, but once I saw how little the price difference was, I decided to just let them build them for me. Much easier :)

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Just32 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:35 pm

The thing is that this goods, in my country, are realy expensive, so, i have do it my self.
What kind of insulation is that? What material?
The red fabric is random one?

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by MacGuffin » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:43 pm

insulation is rockwool, could be roxul safe n sound

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Re: Post your set up and your sexy cat...

Post by Machinesworking » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:56 pm

Homebelly wrote:Mr Machine...

How is that memory moog holding up is it still nice and stable or does it drift out of tune much?
How old is it?
And, how does the Poly-evolver compare?...( probably a silly question really.. :oops: )
I used to have a little play on one if i was at the guys house and he was other wise occupied, all through my years of digital VA's and softsynths my memory of the moog has always been my yard stick.
I had a truck totaled by another driver and got enough money from it to pay to ship the Memorymoog to Lintronics in Germany.
http://www.lintronics.de/
The guy modifies it to send MIDI on every knob and button, plus he fixes the tuning problems. In the ten years since then I've had to have it tuned once.
I'll never sell it, only piece of gear I own that's rare enough and useful enough to merit that. I use the thing for bass 90% of the time and sometimes for pads and lead sounds.
The Poly Evolver is a nice hybrid, it's fun to play, and sounds good, but of the two I could replicate the sound of the Evolver on soft synths, I couldn't really do anything but come close with the Moogs sound. The truly sick thing to do with the Moog is to stack all six voices in mono mode. Once you start using that sound though it's hard to stop. 8)
The routing is pretty unique, the voice mod section is hugely useful, the arpeggiator on the Memorymoog is pretty fun too.

That said, I like the Voyagers and even though they aren't cheap either, it's much more feasible to use them on stage. At around 6k in value at this point, the Memorymoog is too big of a risk. The Xpander BTW is worth looking into. They go for about $1800-2600 and are capable of a lot smoother sounds, think early 80's movie soundtracks. Pads on the Xpander are beyond sweat, and the bass is nice. It's got a weak attack, but that's it's only real downfall, LFOs can be assigned to other LFOs even, which makes for some total chaos. It's an ambient generative musicians wet dream. The Xpander has about 6 types of filters, so in terms of studio work I would choose it over the Evolver, which has better routing, but like all DSI gear IMO is thinner sounding due to reliance on digital components and Mr. Smiths own tastes.

Again though the Poly Evolver is a hybrid, with Digitally Controlled Oscillators or DCOs instead of VCOs so it's really a different beast entirely. It's a lot more replaceable but as a person that sometimes plays like a keyboard player, the 4 voice limit was retarded. 6 is fine, I can deal with that, most synth sounds don't sound that good when you use more than 6 voices anyway but 4 is too little. They made a Rack version that you could chain so you would have 8, but that's clunky IMO.... that said the Evolver is great fun.

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