Drum Rack Voices

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Drum Rack Voices

Post by Fumato » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:52 pm

Hello,

When I trigger voices in drum rack, I need to hold the key down for the duration of the sample. Is there a way that the entire sample will play, by simply tapping the key ?

I've been searching the forums for info., and the only thing I've seen is a thread that talks about saving a default simpler that has the release time adjusted.

Is this the answer ? Adjusting the release on simpler while playing the note doesn't seem to be helping...

Thanks for any relevant input you may have.

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by Fumato » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:45 pm

Could it be as simple as turning on simpler's loop function ?

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by Fumato » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:59 pm

Nope that didn't work. It only looped the sample when held. Who'd a thunk ?

Anyone got any ideas how to make the entire voice play with only a key strike, not a key hold ?

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by luddy » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:47 am

>> Nope that didn't work. It only looped the sample when held. Who'd a thunk ?

But, if it didn't stop looping when you lifted up the key, when would it stop looping?

Playing the sample as a one-shot from beginning to end means playing it with no looping at all, regardless of key-up. The simplest kind of "play this sample exactly as it is, exactly once" envelope is: attack=0, decay=anything, release=max, sustain=max, loop=off.

hth,

-Luddy

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by Fumato » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:17 pm

luddy wrote:>> Nope that didn't work. It only looped the sample when held. Who'd a thunk ?

But, if it didn't stop looping when you lifted up the key, when would it stop looping?
I was merely mocking my earlier naivety in thinking that the loop option would solve my issue. I'm going to try your suggestion now.

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by LeifonMars » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:18 pm

Fumato wrote:
luddy wrote:>> Nope that didn't work. It only looped the sample when held. Who'd a thunk ?

But, if it didn't stop looping when you lifted up the key, when would it stop looping?
I was merely mocking my earlier naivety in thinking that the loop option would solve my issue. I'm going to try your suggestion now.
As luddy above suggested, release is your answer. Google ADSR-envelope.
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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by Lazos » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:35 pm

You can also stick a Note Length midi plug before the Simpler set to the time of the length of the sample. It's like you just held the key down for the entire time but only need a tap.

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by outershpongolia » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:47 pm

Put the Release all the way up.. Well, all the way up may be over kill but it will just stop when the sample stops..

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by luddy » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:29 am

outershpongolia wrote:Put the Release all the way up.. Well, all the way up may be over kill but it will just stop when the sample stops..
All the way up is what you want. If the release is long but not long enough, it won't cut the sample off but the volume will fall after you release the key...

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by Drfish » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:41 am

Yea just ajust the release

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by Dr. Fluffenstein » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:53 am

I was trying to solve the same problem a few days ago, putting the 'note length' midi effect right before simpler makes it behave like impulse does. One tap and the whole sample plays (according to the note length you specify). Release works too, but it might cause a noticeable volume drop in long samples.

ps: Does anybody know a workaround for making 'note length' do a whole bar? There's an annoying 1/4 note limit :(

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by LeifonMars » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:09 am

Dr. Fluffenstein wrote:
ps: Does anybody know a workaround for making 'note length' do a whole bar? There's an annoying 1/4 note limit :(
Use time mode instead of sync mode. It goes all the way up to 60 secs.
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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by Dr. Fluffenstein » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:35 am

LeifonMars wrote:
Dr. Fluffenstein wrote:
ps: Does anybody know a workaround for making 'note length' do a whole bar? There's an annoying 1/4 note limit :(
Use time mode instead of sync mode. It goes all the way up to 60 secs.
I know that time mode is there, it's just that sync is more convenient.

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by IP » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:22 am

LeifonMars wrote:
Dr. Fluffenstein wrote:
ps: Does anybody know a workaround for making 'note length' do a whole bar? There's an annoying 1/4 note limit :(
Use time mode instead of sync mode. It goes all the way up to 60 secs.
+1
and if you want more set gate to 200% to go 120 seconds

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Re: Drum Rack Voices

Post by LeifonMars » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:49 am

Dr. Fluffenstein wrote:
I know that time mode is there, it's just that sync is more convenient.
Time mode is more exciting.
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