ask about make music
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tara frutao
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ask about make music
Hello. sorry english very bad. I new to Ableton
Llive 4 and try to make someting. if one can help me how make music sound dirty? i make songs but come out to prety. how can make sounds dirty like example
www.bedrock.uk.net/samples/salvation on slavery sins nick muir mix.mp3
thanks very much
tara
Llive 4 and try to make someting. if one can help me how make music sound dirty? i make songs but come out to prety. how can make sounds dirty like example
www.bedrock.uk.net/samples/salvation on slavery sins nick muir mix.mp3
thanks very much
tara
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suburbanbather
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The darkness in that tune comes from 2 places.
First the synth sounds are dark.... That's just a matter of tweaking and
combining messed up sounds..... There is a little distortion in the
percussion and a few things... but really it's fairly clean just with "gritty"
sounds.
Second the bass-line.... Technically it's Locrian mode, which contains a
minor 3rd and minor 2nd. um... english not being your first.... makes this
harder.... minor 3rds give a sad, dark, kinda sound. The minor 2nd doesn't
exist in many scales, plus it's only a semi-tone away from the root, so it
sounds even darker and more messed up.
Try these 2 lines and see the difference in scale choice....
Use the rhythm in that tune u posted.....
C -> Eb -> C -> Db (Locrian)
compared to Major which is.....
C -> E -> C -> D (Ionian)
-Ben
First the synth sounds are dark.... That's just a matter of tweaking and
combining messed up sounds..... There is a little distortion in the
percussion and a few things... but really it's fairly clean just with "gritty"
sounds.
Second the bass-line.... Technically it's Locrian mode, which contains a
minor 3rd and minor 2nd. um... english not being your first.... makes this
harder.... minor 3rds give a sad, dark, kinda sound. The minor 2nd doesn't
exist in many scales, plus it's only a semi-tone away from the root, so it
sounds even darker and more messed up.
Try these 2 lines and see the difference in scale choice....
Use the rhythm in that tune u posted.....
C -> Eb -> C -> Db (Locrian)
compared to Major which is.....
C -> E -> C -> D (Ionian)
-Ben
Wish I had your ears Ben...
But my stomach is nice and tender right now!
And making thing more ugly: To mix unexpected sources may make it less "nice". Adding ring modulation, "bad" EQ, using a delay with short delaytime and much feedback as a reverb.
A not so nice synth: Swamp.
And NoteGraphica may produce some very raw, dynamic stuff.
(Note: Have not listened to the example yet, sorry.)
Edit: Listened. Bit reduction? Overdrive?
There is something that makes the track sound "hollow". Ben? Lack of mid tones in the spectrum?
// C
But my stomach is nice and tender right now!
And making thing more ugly: To mix unexpected sources may make it less "nice". Adding ring modulation, "bad" EQ, using a delay with short delaytime and much feedback as a reverb.
A not so nice synth: Swamp.
And NoteGraphica may produce some very raw, dynamic stuff.
(Note: Have not listened to the example yet, sorry.)
Edit: Listened. Bit reduction? Overdrive?
There is something that makes the track sound "hollow". Ben? Lack of mid tones in the spectrum?
// C
PC Laptop Acer, XP Home SP2, build in crappy sound card.
Bleeps and Blops!
http://bluemoose.greatnow.com/
Bleeps and Blops!
http://bluemoose.greatnow.com/
You want dirty sounds, use this on everything:
Crazy Ivan
Try layering two of them with supatrigga and grain delay between them.
You want dirty, Ivan will give you dirty.
Crazy Ivan
Try layering two of them with supatrigga and grain delay between them.
You want dirty, Ivan will give you dirty.
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dj metronome
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Re: ask about make music
sound dirty?
Hey man, You need to change the sample rate of your audio to say 8 bit, and add distortion.
Peace
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Plastic Hassle
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