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tara frutao
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ask about make music

Post by tara frutao » Sun May 01, 2005 3:50 pm

Hello. sorry english very bad. I new to Ableton
Llive 4 and try to make someting. if one can help me how make music sound dirty? i make songs but come out to prety. how can make sounds dirty like example

www.bedrock.uk.net/samples/salvation on slavery sins nick muir mix.mp3

thanks very much
tara

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Post by toneroll » Sun May 01, 2005 3:56 pm

rub some compost on your keyboard.

or you could sample loads of orgasms off pornos and stick them in your tracks.

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Post by beachnote » Sun May 01, 2005 4:11 pm

ooooh, this is just too tempting...heh....hehehe.....*takes a deep breath*


ummm....ehhhh.....i just cant do it.....*sighs*


:twisted: im i really this freakin perverted and sick in the head...

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Post by suburbanbather » Sun May 01, 2005 4:37 pm

Try experimenting with distortion. And give yourself a chance with tweaking synth parameters for gritty sounding tones.

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Post by MrYellow » Sun May 01, 2005 4:46 pm

The darkness in that tune comes from 2 places.

First the synth sounds are dark.... That's just a matter of tweaking and
combining messed up sounds..... There is a little distortion in the
percussion and a few things... but really it's fairly clean just with "gritty"
sounds.

Second the bass-line.... Technically it's Locrian mode, which contains a
minor 3rd and minor 2nd. um... english not being your first.... makes this
harder.... minor 3rds give a sad, dark, kinda sound. The minor 2nd doesn't
exist in many scales, plus it's only a semi-tone away from the root, so it
sounds even darker and more messed up.

Try these 2 lines and see the difference in scale choice....
Use the rhythm in that tune u posted.....

C -> Eb -> C -> Db (Locrian)

compared to Major which is.....

C -> E -> C -> D (Ionian)

-Ben

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Post by conny » Sun May 01, 2005 7:18 pm

Wish I had your ears Ben...
But my stomach is nice and tender right now!

And making thing more ugly: To mix unexpected sources may make it less "nice". Adding ring modulation, "bad" EQ, using a delay with short delaytime and much feedback as a reverb.
A not so nice synth: Swamp.
And NoteGraphica may produce some very raw, dynamic stuff.

(Note: Have not listened to the example yet, sorry.)

Edit: Listened. Bit reduction? Overdrive?
There is something that makes the track sound "hollow". Ben? Lack of mid tones in the spectrum?

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Post by smutek » Sun May 01, 2005 7:46 pm

You want dirty sounds, use this on everything:

Crazy Ivan

Try layering two of them with supatrigga and grain delay between them.


You want dirty, Ivan will give you dirty.

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Re: ask about make music

Post by dj metronome » Sun May 01, 2005 9:47 pm

sound dirty?


Hey man, You need to change the sample rate of your audio to say 8 bit, and add distortion.


Peace

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Post by MrYellow » Mon May 02, 2005 5:12 am

Ben? Lack of mid tones in the spectrum?
Well I can spot the scales but the bit reduction eluded me....
Really need more practice listening to synths.
Would be good to be able to hear a sine and say what frequency it was!

-Ben

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Post by Plastic Hassle » Mon May 02, 2005 2:52 pm

Try playing with the Redux device in the Audio Effects folder.
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tara frutao
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Post by tara frutao » Mon May 02, 2005 6:51 pm

thank you for help :D
i use distotion now

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Post by sweetjesus » Mon May 02, 2005 7:53 pm

tara frutao wrote:thank you for help :D
i use distotion now

Why does that provoke the image of some mad scientist in dr frankensteins castle making crazy twisted sounds?

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