Why do these bitches keep calling it a Book burning ???

[starving student]

I'm of the christian faith, not religion though and I have to admit there are things about the muslim faith that I don't understand but that is besides the point, I've heard some people say that they shouldn't have the right to have the community/prayer center there because if this was some other country
in the middle east americans wouldn't have the right to do so. First of all thats speculative and even though that's my personal opinion as well I still think it's the fact that this is not some other country that is the point. If we just pick and choose which parts of the constitution to follow then what's the point, I think it would imediately suck the integrity out of that document.

[dum]

I'm not sure why you're a mong. I'm guessing you were just born this way.

[starving student]

We, (USA), are a bunch of self centered twats who think anyone who isn't Christian is evil. I personally think all religion is outdated crowd control. I couldn't give a rat's ass if they built the mosque in the center of ground zero.

This is a fairly ridiculous thing to say, especially given that most Americans hate christian extremists like the Westboro Baptist Church assholes.

A lot of the main, legitimate, concern revolves around Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and not because of it being Muslim.

My 2 cents is that it's up to the NY State officials to decide, if they are going about it in a legal way then it's their freedom to do so.

it does seem like some close to the issue are trying to make the argument about him now more so than before, it looks like they're trying to find something legitamate to use as a basis for the argument
but most people don't know anything about him, most can't even say his name right. If there is something
criminal about him then he should be investigated and or arrested, charged, but people are acting like he's the Al sharpton of muslims and that any missgivings in his character reflect that of all muslims.
If we treated christians like that we would be assed out

[starving student]

I'm not sure why you're a mong. I'm guessing you were just born this way.

but what is a mong?

all I could find was this http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mong
and another definition of dog, so you are either calling me a dog, a mans thong, or lacking common sense?

if you don't mind me asking which statement of mine specifically tipped you off?

[H20nly]

I'm of the christian faith, not religion though and I have to admit there are things about the muslim faith that I don't understand but that is besides the point, I've heard some people say that they shouldn't have the right to have the community/prayer center there because if this was some other country
in the middle east americans wouldn't have the right to do so. First of all thats speculative and even though that's my personal opinion as well I still think it's the fact that this is not some other country that is the point. If we just pick and choose which parts of the constitution to follow then what's the point, I think it would imediately suck the integrity out of that document.

it says in the Quran that if "People of the book" (Jews or Christians) come to you (a Muslim) seeking refuge that they should be provided sanctuary. It also says that they should be allowed to practice their faith. So long as it does not interfere with the faith of others in the (Muslim) community - this must be tolerated.

So if a Christian needs help, he should be helped. If he wants to pray, he should be allowed to pray. If he wants to walk around knocking on doors handing our fliers and spreading "the good news" and encouraging his brand of change... he needs to get the hell on cause he's obviously on the mend.

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for the record ^ that was a synopsis.

On the other side of the coin... Jesus helped beggars, prostitutes, sick, drug addict type awful people, so he's actually not fit enough to be a Christian by today's standards.

[caaflex]

We, (USA), are a bunch of self centered twats who think anyone who isn't Christian is evil. I personally think all religion is outdated crowd control. I couldn't give a rat's ass if they built the mosque in the center of ground zero.

This is a fairly ridiculous thing to say, especially given that most Americans hate christian extremists like the Westboro Baptist Church assholes.

A lot of the main, legitimate, concern revolves around Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and not because of it being Muslim.

My 2 cents is that it's up to the NY State officials to decide, if they are going about it in a legal way then it's their freedom to do so.

it does seem like some close to the issue are trying to make the argument about him now more so than before, it looks like they're trying to find something legitamate to use as a basis for the argument
but most people don't know anything about him, most can't even say his name right. If there is something
criminal about him then he should be investigated and or arrested, charged, but people are acting like he's the Al sharpton of muslims and that any missgivings in his character reflect that of all muslims.
If we treated christians like that we would be assed out

Can you blame people for being sensitive to this, with him at the head, when he has said things along the lines of US Policies being an accessory to 9/11? and that there are plenty of angry Muslims willing to die if things don't change?

The muslim exteremist terrorism network is very smart, they won't leave blatant, open ended ties to any of their terrorist acts and their public figures like Abdul Rauf. It's not as simple as just arresting him. To reiterate, I'm not touting that all muslims are terrorists, hopefully no one is that ignorant. But there are a number of things that have demonstrated Abdul Rauf's tolerance for muslim extremist terrorism and 'possible' ties (beyond sharing a religion) to terrorist organizations. So again, I can see why people are so aprehensive with him at the head.

But again, in my opinion it's up to NY State and as long as everything is done legally then everyone else just needs to accept it. America, after all, is a place where people came to escape religious persecution, and I don't think anyone has problems with the building being Muslim, and only concerns with Abdul Rauf and what he really wants to do with the place. IMO.

[starving student]

caaflex hardly anyone outside of a select few are making that argument, what's blatant is the type of ignorance that you spoke of , and alot of people say no more mosque period, maybe not in your house or your circle but if you know this much about Abdul Rauf I find it hard to believe that you've missed the enormous hunk of ignorance the country is gorging itself on.

[starving student]

you know there are many groups in america threatening to take over the country everyday, and these are americans on top of that, but no one seems to be concerned or disturbed about the things those people say

I don't believe in letting any leader get away with something, I still say if that guy did something wrong
they should arrest him for it, aiding terrorist is against the law, if there is no proof of that and the guy is just an ass hole then this whole thing is rediculous and unfounded.

[dum]

if you don't mind me asking which statement of mine specifically tipped you off?

Nope, not gonna give you tips on how to annoy me.

Nice try though!

[starving student]

if you don't mind me asking which statement of mine specifically tipped you off?

Nope, not gonna give you tips on how to annoy me.

Nice try though!

not at all, don't want to annoy you I was just hoping you share some of your wisdum see what i did there

[dum]

I already shared my wisdom.

OP is a mong.

that's gonna save folks some time.

[caaflex]

caaflex hardly anyone outside of a select few are making that argument, what's blatant is the type of ignorance that you spoke of , and alot of people say no more mosque period, maybe not in your house or your circle but if you know this much about Abdul Rauf I find it hard to believe that you've missed the enormous hunk of ignorance the country is gorging itself on.

I won't try to act like there isn't that type of ignorance going on, but I guess I just sweep it under the rug with all of the other ignorant things that human beings do/think on a regular basis. There is no escaping mass ignorance with our kind. So I can see what you are saying.

you know there are many groups in america threatening to take over the country everyday, and these are americans on top of that, but no one seems to be concerned or disturbed about the things those people say

The groups in America threatening to take over the country (i'm assuming you are talking about tea party activisits?) Have a completely different agenda than Muslim extremist terrorism. The tea party doesn't commit acts of terrorism in the name of a religion and kill innocent people on a daily basis. They are just people talking national politics with no true intentions of trying to organize a revolution. Abdul Rauf has more or less openly accepted Muslim extremist terrorism and has been quoted saying more of it will come if things don't change. Apples to Oranges IMO.

I don't believe in letting any leader get away with something, I still say if that guy did something wrong
they should arrest him for it, aiding terrorist is against the law, if there is no proof of that and the guy is just an ass hole then this whole thing is rediculous and unfounded.

A person can get a way with a lot with a little bit of planning and the right connections/networking, the world we live in is far from morally correct and transparent, the burden of proof goes a long way,

[starving student]

if you don't mind me asking which statement of mine specifically tipped you off?

Nope, not gonna give you tips on how to annoy me.

Nice try though!

well behalf of those you've saved from me I'd like to say 'thanks ya big dummy'
but who's going to save them from you?

[starving student]

caaflex hardly anyone outside of a select few are making that argument, what's blatant is the type of ignorance that you spoke of , and alot of people say no more mosque period, maybe not in your house or your circle but if you know this much about Abdul Rauf I find it hard to believe that you've missed the enormous hunk of ignorance the country is gorging itself on.

I won't try to act like there isn't that type of ignorance going on, but I guess I just sweep it under the rug with all of the other ignorant things that human beings do/think on a regular basis. There is no escaping mass ignorance with our kind. So I can see what you are saying.

you know there are many groups in america threatening to take over the country everyday, and these are americans on top of that, but no one seems to be concerned or disturbed about the things those people say

The groups in America threatening to take over the country (i'm assuming you are talking about tea party activisits?) Have a completely different agenda than Muslim extremist terrorism. The tea party doesn't commit acts of terrorism in the name of a religion and kill innocent people on a daily basis. They are just people talking national politics with no true intentions of trying to organize a revolution. Abdul Rauf has more or less openly accepted Muslim extremist terrorism and has been quoted saying more of it will come if things don't change. Apples to Oranges IMO.

I don't believe in letting any leader get away with something, I still say if that guy did something wrong
they should arrest him for it, aiding terrorist is against the law, if there is no proof of that and the guy is just an ass hole then this whole thing is rediculous and unfounded.

A person can get a way with a lot with a little bit of planning and the right connections/networking, the world we live in is far from morally correct and transparent, the burden of proof goes a long way,

actually I wasn't talking about the tea party but don't get me started, I was talking about the militias and the weapons they like to carry, imho they, what they stand for, and their history is nothing to sweep under the rug in my opinion, I just think extremism is extremism, and back to the tea party can you imagine if obama was actually an american muslim....i shudder to think

[ChiDJ]

We, (USA), are a bunch of self centered twats who think anyone who isn't Christian is evil. I personally think all religion is outdated crowd control. I couldn't give a rat's ass if they built the mosque in the center of ground zero.

This is a fairly ridiculous thing to say, especially given that most Americans hate christian extremists like the Westboro Baptist Church assholes.

A lot of the main, legitimate, concern revolves around Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and not because of it being Muslim.

My 2 cents is that it's up to the NY State officials to decide, if they are going about it in a legal way then it's their freedom to do so.

I rest my case. If you're of any religulous affiliation, you are prejudiced and unable to be objective. Myself, on the other hand, can calmly conclude that you all are living in a "magical" world where Eve was created from Adam's rib and some people can walk on water.

I cannot relate. Do you also believe in Santa Claus? The Tooth Fairy? Leprechauns ?