Recycle's Stretch Technique In Live 8?

[n8an]

Hi guys!

I have a pretty straightforward question for you...


Is it possible within Live 8 to take a sample and stretch it in the same way that Recycle does, by adding a slight tail to each section? I was hoping it might be done via Warping with the Beats setting and chosing the right slicing preset in the 'Slice To New Midi Track' options. If not, does anybody have a work around?

[zeitgeist]

The easiest way I can think of to do this is to stick warp markers where you want your slices, then "Slice to New MIDI Track" with slices placed on warp markers. Then slow the global tempo down to your desired tempo (presumably, if you want tails added to the end of each slice, you're looking to slow the tempo, not raise it). Now freeze the MIDI track and then flatten it. And presto: you now have a new audio clip with tails of silence inserted at the ends of each slice. (And if you want to work with slices, just re-slice the new audio.)

The other answer is to use Recycle. Live is flexible enough that you can do most slicing tasks, but it usually requires some workarounds and some non-obvious steps. Live is not a mature slicing tool like Recycle.

Hope this helps!

[dna598]

hmmmm....

The tail is replicated by using a ping pong loop (sampler) on the end of slices that are long not enough to fill the time.

I do it manually in the sample view tab in sampler.

Its is bit tedious if it needs to be done on all the slices (drastic slow down).

Perhaps slow it down as audio (taking care to tidy transient markers) then resample and slice?

[n8an]

Thanks you guys. I'm gonna try those techniques out when I get home tonight.

[rydan]

Isn't that pretty much what the "beats" warp mode does. You can select whether you want pingpong loop or regular (or no loop) and the amount...

[dna598]

Isn't that pretty much what the "beats" warp mode does. You can select whether you want pingpong loop or regular (or no loop) and the amount...

yes but once you slice in live, the warping mode is not relevant and you are left with the raw slices. Thats NO good.

When Recycle saves your rex and you load it up in sampler, your slices have the release tail on the end of them, depending on how much "stretch" is specified.

[rydan]

Ah, sorry, didn't read all that well.

How about using beats warp mode, stretching the clip to the desired tempo/length, then consolidate, then slice? That should embed the stretching into the new audio file I think.

[Guff Tong]

I normaly just hit the '+2' & '-2' buttons button in the clip window. instant stretch/contraction at your disposal.

If you want to stretch a whole audio clip to double, quadrouple the bars - just hit that 'x2' button.

If you need to stretch a particular section of audio from a clip: drop into arrangement, highlight the section, crop it, x2 it (from within the clip) then drag the cell so that the whole sample plays out.


set warp to complex pro (if you have it) to avoid the warbles...

[dna598]

aahh the warbles....bain of live.

Just suspecting the warbles will occur is enough to wanna use recycle on its own. I have founds beats mode to be buggy in comparison.

I just hope they take a long last look at that old program before Live 9 arrives.

[nylarch]

Yeah Recycle is kind of a great example of the "do one thing and do it really well" school of software. I keep going back to it.

[glitchrock-buddha]

I htink the fastest way, like what was mentioned above, would be to freeze and flatten the clip while in beats mode, then slice to new track. That'll keep the tails.

[3phase]

Isn't that pretty much what the "beats" warp mode does. You can select whether you want pingpong loop or regular (or no loop) and the amount...

but with ecycle theire is no brown henke dither applied..therfore the audio quality is much better