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Post by galo » Thu May 05, 2005 1:24 pm

dallas! wrote:Galo,

Where did you find this wonderous, yet slightly useless information?

dallas!
i would like to say that it was sent to me by sasha's management in preparation for a gig he is doing down my local boozer on Saturday night, but in reality i just lifted it from MercuryServer.

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Post by djadonis206 » Thu May 05, 2005 3:33 pm

Dan and Donald just need a bottle of goose, turntables and a mixer and blow up super tough - I'm just being funny

that's cool (Sasha's set up)

I wonder what Carl's rider looks like - a bangin system and a bunch of models


don't forget the large floating heads all over the club - kinda cool, kinda creepy, to know Carl is watching :)

What if all DJ's started putting their heads up all over the club it would be weird because there's some really ugly DJ's out there who are really good - weird...ok I need to wake up

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Post by AndrewDuke » Thu May 05, 2005 3:42 pm

hambone1 wrote:Maybe I'm from another planet or I'm just missing something here, but who is Sasha? :?:
my favorite post of the day! :)

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Post by sweetjesus » Thu May 05, 2005 3:51 pm

get over the sasha bashing guys..

as for the picture, i doubt its authenticity because nobody would ever have speakers in that position due to massive phase problems..

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Post by computo » Thu May 05, 2005 3:58 pm

ok, its official, Sasha is an idiot. You dont play live audio with wireless shit. Thats a sure fire way to get less than the best from a system. Bluetooth is a drain on everything, and hes touring with it...I cant help but laugh heartily.

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Post by kabuki » Thu May 05, 2005 4:14 pm

ack! I HATE biting my tongue for fear anything I h=might say would come back to haunt me!
15" PB 2.5 Ghz, 4 Gig RAM, 750 GB HD, Live 9 still no cue points or program change messages?!?. Doesn't do shit.

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Post by Pitch Black » Thu May 05, 2005 4:17 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
as for the picture, i doubt its authenticity because nobody would ever have speakers in that position due to massive phase problems..
I beg to differ, thats just how my 2-man band sets up our monitors.
Phase issues? thery're monitors fer gossakes. They need to be: balanced stereo (read:equidistant), loud (hence the request for subs), and provide a direct sense of the top end so that you can play in time - not hear whats slapping back off the venue's back wall.

Setting up monitors like that is a time-honoured technique called Side-Fill. Try it, you'll like it!!

cheers
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Post by kabuki » Thu May 05, 2005 4:28 pm

It would seem that that set up would phaze out any mono waves. Thats why most monitoers are set up in FRONT of the listener, not the sides pointing inwards... ?
15" PB 2.5 Ghz, 4 Gig RAM, 750 GB HD, Live 9 still no cue points or program change messages?!?. Doesn't do shit.

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Post by D K » Thu May 05, 2005 4:33 pm

if there's phasing, you either
a. hit the phase reverse on the monitor desk on one channel
b. insert a phase-reverse adaptor on the send to the monitor power
c. worst case reverse the phase at the power amp output
it's absolutely normal protocol for live stages.
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Post by computo » Thu May 05, 2005 5:05 pm

nothing like inserting a phase reverse adapter in the middle of a set

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Post by computo » Thu May 05, 2005 5:06 pm

this is poor stage setup...another abomination brought to you by DJ culture. Wont work with mono signals

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Post by D K » Thu May 05, 2005 5:14 pm

actually, you take care of that stuff before doors open,
that's what sound check and sound engineers are for.
the only way your going to completely defeat phasing is by wearing cans.
the side fill has been in use since professional monitors came about in the 60's.
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Post by dallas! » Thu May 05, 2005 6:40 pm

D K wrote:actually, you take care of that stuff before doors open,
that's what sound check and sound engineers are for.
the only way your going to completely defeat phasing is by wearing cans.
the side fill has been in use since professional monitors came about in the 60's.
d
Sidefill - I saw him use this side fill before about 5 years ago in Cambridge(UK), massive stage area with 2 dirty great monitors about 10 feet apart pointing in. Makes perfect sense to me.

dallas!

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Post by drush » Thu May 05, 2005 6:41 pm

computo wrote:ok, its official, Sasha is an idiot. You dont play live audio with wireless shit. Thats a sure fire way to get less than the best from a system. Bluetooth is a drain on everything, and hes touring with it...I cant help but laugh heartily.
obviously why he's using the ultra portable G5 iMac. duh!

the funny thing about that rider is that if you take it literally the promoter or club owner have to come up with a custom piece of furniture. 4x8 table with cut-out for a V6? no problem, got one right here.

and dj monitors are set up that way all the time.

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Post by musick » Fri May 06, 2005 6:56 am

When his set gets to boring it might be good to know he's on wireless :)

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