How to make pop music transitions?

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off7spring
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How to make pop music transitions?

Post by off7spring » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:26 am

Ok so I'm making electro/pop songs like on most top 40 radio stations. I've been hearing a lot of this effect that seems to pitch up then quick back down for transitions. I've tried reverse and regular cymbal hits with a lot of effects (delay, chorus, etc) as well as a bass drop and pitching it down, but I can't seem to get it. I was wondering if anyone might know how to get the desired effect I am looking for in ableton. I have a bunch of vst's including battery and effectrix, but I just can't seem to get it.

The song that comes to mind as an example is "tik tok". The effect I'm talking about appears at the 2:19 minute mark (when she says "DJ").

here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs&ob=av3e

if someone could help me it would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

cmcpress
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Re: How to make pop music transitions?

Post by cmcpress » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:23 am

tape stop VST - run it across the master channel.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/826.html

Or in Ableton if you just want to affect the voice use the pitch bend option within the clip - you'll get a better effect with Tape Stop IMHO.

Vass
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Re: How to make pop music transitions?

Post by Vass » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:29 pm

Im at work right now so can't listen but if it is a tape stop effect as mentioned then your effectrix plug has a pretty good tape stop.

On the vinyl effect paramaters you can switch to stop mode or something similar.

Try that out!

off7spring
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Re: How to make pop music transitions?

Post by off7spring » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:37 pm

Thanks for the advice guys...much appreciated! cmcpress...do you happen to know any good mac vst's that do the similar thing to the tape stop (besides effectrix)? I can't seem to find the tape stop vst for mac

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Re: How to make pop music transitions?

Post by Lazos » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:02 pm

Uhbik-G can do tape-stop effects.

http://www.uhbik.com

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Re: How to make pop music transitions?

Post by Da hand » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:05 pm

White noise with the proper filter(s) automation.

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Re: How to make pop music transitions?

Post by stxlm » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:26 pm

I hear a tape-stop:y effect on the word "tipsy" @ 0:39, and a shorter one at 1:44 (po-po shut us) "down".
Just for fun, I recorded the DJ break in Live and set 1.1.1 at the D in "DJ"
It's a rather dense section!
This is what I hear:
1.1.1 The clap from the main beat, "Dee-", a chord stab, a high pitched bleep that sounds like a saw wave pitched up very high over an 8th note, also the fade out of her "oh-oh-ing".
1.2.1 "-Jay", a boomy tom/bassy drum with reverb an an organ like bass note.
1.3.1 A filter sweeped (hi>low) noise waveform with phasing, a heavily auto-tuned and double-tracked vocal and the organ bass note continued.

Then it builds up again with upward filter sweep of noise-y pad sound, extra layers of voice, a short plucky pulse-wavy arpeggiated tone while the organ melody develops.

So, in conclusion - it's my opinion that you don't need certain plug-ins and whatnot. Analyse what you hear, both in general and in detail, and compare that to the sounds your gear makes. Play around A LOT. Use other songs as inspiration, but don't be discouraged if you can't get the exact same sound. Heck, 20 years ago I tried getting an Akai XE8 sound like a Roland TR-808. Google and giggle with me. :)

A good break is one that builds tension and anticipation. Create that emotion by taking down the energy of the track and build it back up again. Do it any way you want.

Oh, and sorry for rambling. Cheers if you read this far!

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