we are the milk's cow of ableton

[vaderoner]

here is a mil that i send to ableton and their answer:

hello
>
>i jst see that you offer amp for the owner of live SUITE
>and for your custumer who buy live since the begining, what do you
>offer???????
>
>i bought live since live 4 and i'm on live 8 right now (800-900 euros for
>the ableton live 4 and the upgrades)
>
>don't you think that we could have amp for free?????
>sometimes i fell like a milk's cow with you
>
>i think i'm going post this on the ableton forum to see what custumers think
>of it
>
>don't send me a -50% for buying amp,it doesn't interst me,i want it for free
>like the owner of ableton suite and i think it's normal
>
>miviere julien
>a custumer a little bit disapointed


the answer:

Hi Miviere,

Thanks for emailing Ableton.

We're sorry to hear about your frustration. To explain, Live Suite remains the same in that it comprises of all available tools and instruments available for Live. The standard version of Live remains the same in that it comes with Impulse and Simpler. Being that Amp is a new individual product, it will only be available as a free upgrade to users who purchased the 'all-encompassing' Suite.

Looking at your account, you can take advantage of our upgrade pricing which now includes Amp, or you can purchase Amp separately.

We hope you understand our product pricing, and encourage you to check back with us for special offers and promotional campaigns offered to our dedicated users just like you.

Kind Regards,


my second answer:

lol

so i'm really a milk's cow
just for explain, i bought live since the fourth live version, so i give you already about 450 euros if you add all the upgrades to arrive at live 8 i give you about 850-900 euros, don't you think the new stuff that you give for the owner of ableton suite could not be free for me (and ll the customers who are in the same case) ?

if it continue like this i think i'm going to pass n protools who give you all the elements of the software when you buy it




how much the software will cost in 10 years for the owner of the 1/2/3/4 live liscence?????????????????????????

[UKRuss]

What is a 'milk's cow'?

[v0ins315]

Milk's cow?

[docprosper]

Mr. Milkscow,
What you got for being a user since Live 4 that newer users didn't get was the use of the software over a much longer time period. Stop whining. Don't upgrade if you don't want to spend the money. You're starting to curdle.

[vaderoner]

it's a french expression to say that you're juste here for give your money and never ask something

[vaderoner]

the only things who disturb me is that is free for the ableton suite's owner and the old user have never something for free

but apparently all the user don't care to pay so.....

[Nick Shepherd]

it's a french expression

think different ?

[vaderoner]

?

[MPGK]

It just milks.

But seriously now, that's just the way things work. I bought Suite 8 and I think it's fair that everything now shipped with Suite 8 is free for Suite 8 owners. And everything that now ships with Live 8 is free for Live 8 owners. Anything more is goodwill, and goodwill isn't something you beg for.

[vaderoner]

when we will in ableton 12 and when you will pay for all upgrade you will understand what i say when you will see that the proud owner of suite 12 will have a lot of things for free but not you

[hoffman2k]

when we will in ableton 12 and when you will pay for all upgrade you will understand what i say when you will see that the proud owner of suite 12 will have a lot of things for free but not you

Pretty sweet deal yeah. I bought the suite upgrade for what I seem to recall to be about 280€. Now because I have the suite, Ableton has to give the things they add to the Suite. And when Live 9 arrives, my upgrade price will probably be the same as the regular upgrade price. If they add new stuff to the suite later, I get it again. I wonder how long we suite users can milk that.

[jbodango]

[quote="MPGK"]It just milks.[quote]

Milk changes everything

[beats me]

I drop about $100 per week on groceries which for the most part are gone by the end of the following week.

I put about $50 in gas in my car each week which just about gets me to work and back and that's it for the following week.

I spend about $300 on utilities on cell services a month or they shut my shit off.

Shall I continue?

[vaderoner]

because you think that you will have all the stuff for free in the next version of ableton live
let me smile

here is a mail that i posted to ableton:

i have an other question

if i bought live suite ,will i have to pay the new stuff in the future or it will be free cause i have the full version?

the answer:

Hi Miviere,

With Suite, you will have all available instruments for Live 8.

We have no plans for future versions of Live at this point, but I'm guessing those will be subject to upgrade pricing as well.. also taking into account your purchase history with us, and probably giving you a greater discount from Suite than from the standard version, I imagine.

One thing I can say for sure, is we will continue to offer you a better deal whenever you do decide to upgrade.


so???

[vaderoner]

i don't understand what you want to say beats me
??????????