Ableton Live 8.2

[H20nly]

lets fix the bloody sync to silence this guy.

When they get the sync done i promisse to be a nice 3phase..maybe even a fanboy..kind of.. i will dress my critics in flowers from than on,
and will praise the name of ableton in other forums and the real real world for finaly beeing a program that can be used like a hardware device on stage without cons or inferior performance in any field..

use of the word "finally" negates the praise.

Please stick to kissing major Ableton ass when you get what you want or switch to Logic and Pro Tools immediately.

This is our final offer.

[3phase]

and if you actually do, you do the same you do now: exaggerate massively, and lie.

the oly guy constantly lieing here is you..

remember last year.. you " life is totally stable on my machine"
after reqest... " it only crashes sometimes "


that was the best fanboy statement ever !!

[3phase]

lets fix the bloody sync to silence this guy.

When they get the sync done i promisse to be a nice 3phase..maybe even a fanboy..kind of.. i will dress my critics in flowers from than on,
and will praise the name of ableton in other forums and the real real world for finaly beeing a program that can be used like a hardware device on stage without cons or inferior performance in any field..

use of the word "finally" negates the praise.

Please stick to kissing major Ableton ass when you get what you want or switch to Logic and Pro Tools immediately.

This is our final offer.

i am on logic and protools allready..thats not the point

and the permanent crashing of L8 just stopped two handfull of weeks ago... a bit to early to turn into a fanboy..

[davepermen]

indeed (shows how you don't understand what i explained to you for over a year now, btw.. just as you don't get ANYTHING people try to tell you in here..)

[3phase]

indeed (shows how you don't understand what i explained to you for over a year now, btw.. just as you don't get ANYTHING people try to tell you in here..)

you were telling me bullshit.. sorry.. but thats what it was.. stable because it only crashes once in a while..pfff
sorry when i stopped taking you serious back then...

[davepermen]

stable because it CRASHED in beta once, and that got fixed. and i found one bug that can't happen on stage, and it got fixed after report.

get it, i get support to do what i want: fix my problems. by helping them. the way i told you you should have.

(and the bug was about closing live, which you don't do on stage)


i did have later (after that discussion) one bug together with the launchpad. again, it got fixed after short support in the next release)

just to make sure i defined clearly what happened.

so yeah, live was all the time except in beta before the launchpad perfectly well while open and in usage. did i lie? for you, sure. but for me, that's perfectly stable enough. thanks.

[3phase]

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[3phase]

stable because it CRASHED in beta once, and that got fixed. and i found one bug that can't happen on stage, and it got fixed after report.

get it, i get support to do what i want: fix my problems. by helping them. the way i told you you should have.

(and the bug was about closing live, which you don't do on stage)


i did have later (after that discussion) one bug together with the launchpad. again, it got fixed after short support in the next release)

just to make sure i defined clearly what happened.

so yeah, live was all the time except in beta before the launchpad perfectly well while open and in usage. did i lie? for you, sure. but for me, that's perfectly stable enough. thanks.

i had crashes on multiple gigs..that was unstable enough for me.. and you allways ignore the quality statement of the ableton ceo.. i take any bet that he has´nt done that exclusivly for me..

[davepermen]

i have NEVER ignored that statement. i just was pissed that nothing that ableton ever did towards you was EVER good enough to you. instead you kept on ranting, dismissed ANY help they tried to provide you, and thus showed that you don't ACTUALLY care about the problems you have, you just wan't to bitch around.

if you would be serious about ableton, you would try to help them helping you. it would be best for all. your gigs would be stable without crashing.

you sound like that woman that sued mc donals because the coffee was hot. you just want to sue verbally on the web, show how they're crap, bitch and moan. not fixing problems.

and this is no base one can discuss on. problems exist, and the idea of a forum is to share and try to fix them. not bashing around. that's what 4chan is for.

[davepermen]

besides, you did not got one of my main points: different setups lead to different problems, and, to some, live does never crash on stage, during production, or when ever one has to rely on it. these people just as well exist, just like people like you exist, problem magnets.

[massenmedium]

Feeling nostalgic for the eighteenth page.

[davepermen]

allready got adult in america, too, that thread.

[3phase]

i have NEVER ignored that statement. i just was pissed that nothing that ableton ever did towards you was EVER good enough to you..

they dropped my supportcase and only started listening to my bug reports about soundengine bugs after a hell lot of work..
they actually educated me that way..

when they asked me what i ve done to cause the first crash i told them..running a few midi tracks.. lighting a cigarette, bam..

and that was nothing but the truth.. and leaded to dropped support..

sorry.. i only know one answer to this kind of humor less arrogance. especially when there is so much critic worthy development going on.. remember? two new fileformats in one year... and this on base of an unstable platform..
disappearing libarys.. crashes with dataloss.. brown henke dither appearances in the middle of a payed mixdown aso..

sorry depperman.. there was reason enough for not beeing positiv about it ..

but thats the past., my critics in this thread regarding the sync was ment as a wakeup call. i think i really know that this would be a very beneficial move for them in the long run. it is just to obvious that they never find the time ti fix such details.

But the demand for better syncing will grow. i am very certain about that. And many old users are requesting that for years..
Having the best syncing on the market would be a sales argument.

[davepermen]

problem is, their statement was after your first rant. so someone said "we're sorry, we learned, we try to fix it" after you cried to them.

and my statement stands: I have NEVER ignored that statement. you said, you don't trust it.

and yes, they asked you, how it happened. and you sayd the most stupid thing. because guess what ANY customer does what you do all the time. play some midi tracks. and guess what, it does NOT crash all the time everywhere.

so i told you that your explanation did NOT at all help. which is true. that's like the doctor asking you in detail what you might have done causing your current hurting body part. and you said "well, i got birth, and i'm alive".

but you never understand that some stuff you do might be YOUR fault. might be done WRONG on your side. and you could LEARN from it.

but i tried to explain that to you so often. and you just explain times and times again how you're pissed off and thus right to dismiss any chance that anything might ever change, and instead have the right to rant against ableton everywhere in every post you possibly can.

[3phase]

i know its stupid to argue with you..

just .. they call my first question on the forum, wether its normal on macs to have crashes on stage, a rant...

sorry.. that wasnt a rant..that was rather mild in relation to the trouble caused..and i straight pointed them to the random midi related crashbug..

theier problem at that point.. random crashbugs didnt exsisted in theier world.. they havent taken the cigarette example serious.. but that just the way you can report a random crashbug..

And.. the misterium that theese rando crashbugs surrived the initila betatesting is easy to explain when you see this..

They only was going for reproducable bugs and the testers was bound to a routine that the had to claim reproducable bugs..

So maybe it crashed during betattesting allready, but the reports wasnt done or handled because there was no description on how to produce them..

When everybody just would have sticked to the cigarette truth they probably would have been aware of theier homemade problems much earlier.

That was the whole problem last year that my reports came in too early.
And now lets stop this bullshit. mr depperman