Surreal wrote:They wanted to do something cool, they tried, they decided that their implementation was not as cool as it could or should be, so they scrapped it. There are worse decisions to be made.
I understand being frustrated if you were really looking forward to it, but if you bought Live on the premise that it would be there and complained early on requesting a refund, you might have a leg to stand on. at this point, it is just complaining really. 'false' advertising? share was in Live for a little bit (beta, yes...but there) when they saw that they couldn't do what they wanted, they pulled it and ads with it displayed. i think that is as much as we should ask. they meant to release it...it wasn't some bait and switch.
In the advertizing movie it looks pretty cool. but its not necessarily a daw intern feature.. its rather something like an own ableton server service ...which might be a good thing, but defently not high in importance when it comes to daw/ stage tool functionality...
from L8 features they only one they could have dropped anyway.. the wise move to drop the max for live integration would have caused a nerd rebellion..so that has to be pushed thru... and all other new features are core standard daw functionality.. things like group tracks, or groovquantize or propper stretching are daw standards and actually the only important additions to L8..
max patchers dont have a different live now, just because the integration.
And for ableton users its just a little more easy to get into max... an introduction.. but to handle the beast you have to deal with max !
The little ableton graphic support dont makes such a big difference ..
However.. one day i might try mfl.. when i ve more time by hand.. after the pain its probably some fun ...
for now I stick to , Collect all and Save , Zip then upload then send email with link lol 
