I would like to see ableton work in creamware's xtcmode...
(then ableton would see and treat the creamware scope plugins as vst devices..)
It works with cubase and logic.... but unfortunately not with ableton....
Maybe it has got something to do with ableton's vst-engine..
xtc mode creamware
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Norwegian_Heffalump
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Pulsar and Live
Hi wauxar
I've got a pulsar 2 card and have been using Live in XTC-mode.
It works ok most of the time, but sometimes when I start Live there is a lot of cracking when playing pulsar synths, I have to change the latency in xtc settings back and forth one or two times, and then suddenly it works again...
I've got a pulsar 2 card and have been using Live in XTC-mode.
It works ok most of the time, but sometimes when I start Live there is a lot of cracking when playing pulsar synths, I have to change the latency in xtc settings back and forth one or two times, and then suddenly it works again...
if one is using the pulsar in XTC mode (which I haven't tried yet in live) once you have set your latency the cset.ini needs to be edited to correspond to the latency value (as in XTC mode the pulsar doesn't remember it for some reason).
this is found at: D:\Scope\App\Bin.
Add the following line under the heading [XTC-Config] : intBlkSize=*
where * corresponds to the correct buffer size for the latency you have set, i.e.
a latency of 11 ms would have a buffer of 512 so it would read intBlkSize=512.
23 ms would be 1024, 5ms would be 256 etc.
Hope that may help.
this is found at: D:\Scope\App\Bin.
Add the following line under the heading [XTC-Config] : intBlkSize=*
where * corresponds to the correct buffer size for the latency you have set, i.e.
a latency of 11 ms would have a buffer of 512 so it would read intBlkSize=512.
23 ms would be 1024, 5ms would be 256 etc.
Hope that may help.
hello...tried your suggestions....
but unfortunately I still have some kind of digital distortion...whatever creanware synth or effect I use...
In cubase and logic it still works fine....
I also checked the planetz forum, but there I couldn't find a solution either..
But I will not give up... if you guys say it works.. then there must be a way...
see ya...
but unfortunately I still have some kind of digital distortion...whatever creanware synth or effect I use...
In cubase and logic it still works fine....
I also checked the planetz forum, but there I couldn't find a solution either..
But I will not give up... if you guys say it works.. then there must be a way...
see ya...
It's the same for me !!! :-(
After a lot of try whith XTC mode and Ableton Live, I think the problem is with the size of a buffer in Live because, in Logic Audio, I solved the crackle problem by setting the buffer size ,in the audio driver properties, to small and also by making the settings as diverdee says. When the buffer size, in Logic, is set to a higher value than small, it didn't work ( same problem as in Live ).
I hope that we could one day work with Ableton Live and XTC mode.
This could be great to use creamware synth as VST plugins.
If you find a solution please tell me.
Bye
I hope that we could one day work with Ableton Live and XTC mode.
This could be great to use creamware synth as VST plugins.
If you find a solution please tell me.
Bye
it's working in xtc mode :)
I found the answer on the PlanetZ forum..
For some reason the ULLI-settings aren't remembered correctly in XTC-mode, so what you do is to first change your ULLI inside XTC-mode in Live (hardware setup), first to a new setting and then the setting that you want it to run in - Then it should work.
This doesn't work if you have devices loaded allready - So change the ULLI-settings first, and then load your device/project.
Then let creamware remember your ULLI settings in xtc mode by changing the Cset.ini file. >>>
Add the following entry into your /Scope/App/Bin/Cset.ini under item
[XTC-config]:
intBlkSize=x
whereby x is a values out of 64, 128, 256, 512 or 1024 and translates as follows to the card's latency:
64: latency = 3 ms
128: latency = 4 ms
256: latency = 7 ms
512: latency = 13 ms
1024: latency = 25 ms
A wrong latency will still be displayed in the ULLI Settings of the ASIO Control Panel, but you can ignore this.
And then it's working... very nice
For some reason the ULLI-settings aren't remembered correctly in XTC-mode, so what you do is to first change your ULLI inside XTC-mode in Live (hardware setup), first to a new setting and then the setting that you want it to run in - Then it should work.
This doesn't work if you have devices loaded allready - So change the ULLI-settings first, and then load your device/project.
Then let creamware remember your ULLI settings in xtc mode by changing the Cset.ini file. >>>
Add the following entry into your /Scope/App/Bin/Cset.ini under item
[XTC-config]:
intBlkSize=x
whereby x is a values out of 64, 128, 256, 512 or 1024 and translates as follows to the card's latency:
64: latency = 3 ms
128: latency = 4 ms
256: latency = 7 ms
512: latency = 13 ms
1024: latency = 25 ms
A wrong latency will still be displayed in the ULLI Settings of the ASIO Control Panel, but you can ignore this.
And then it's working... very nice
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CopyRightJustice
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Hello CopyRightJustice,
you don't have to use the midi port on the creamwarecard.... it should work with usb.
I work with the BCR2000 and some evolutioncontrollers.. they all work fine via usb.
You enabled the usbdevice in the preferences ? and rescanned it ?.... that is the only thing I had to do to make it work..
And also in the BCR2000 I had to switch to usb mode... Maybe in the korg you also have to switch ?
you don't have to use the midi port on the creamwarecard.... it should work with usb.
I work with the BCR2000 and some evolutioncontrollers.. they all work fine via usb.
You enabled the usbdevice in the preferences ? and rescanned it ?.... that is the only thing I had to do to make it work..
And also in the BCR2000 I had to switch to usb mode... Maybe in the korg you also have to switch ?
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CopyRightJustice
- Posts: 130
- Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:18 pm
mmm..strange
midi activity to the left of device but no sound,I also had two midi seq drivers loaded in normal mode which gives me two midi seq ports in ableton, thought this might be the problem so I changed it to one in soundcard settings but ableton still reports two(cannot use the 2nd one)
I have my usb keyboard scanned and track enabled in preferences, there's a midi track with a lightwave loaded which is set to monitor in output to master, when I play the keyboard I see the midi monitor to the left of the device in the track flashing but not on the lightwave which is set to omni with direct off.All my audio outputs are turned on, the direct channel is not the same as the master......no sound?*!"
Wauxar and others Ive been in escstacy with without XTC for years Ive tested XTC mode with Cubase and thought the traditional working method more stable with more flexibility can you say that it's gains outweigh the cons in Ableton.
Also does the realtime rendering work properly this would be a definate plus
Keep creaming
midi activity to the left of device but no sound,I also had two midi seq drivers loaded in normal mode which gives me two midi seq ports in ableton, thought this might be the problem so I changed it to one in soundcard settings but ableton still reports two(cannot use the 2nd one)
I have my usb keyboard scanned and track enabled in preferences, there's a midi track with a lightwave loaded which is set to monitor in output to master, when I play the keyboard I see the midi monitor to the left of the device in the track flashing but not on the lightwave which is set to omni with direct off.All my audio outputs are turned on, the direct channel is not the same as the master......no sound?*!"
Wauxar and others Ive been in escstacy with without XTC for years Ive tested XTC mode with Cubase and thought the traditional working method more stable with more flexibility can you say that it's gains outweigh the cons in Ableton.
Also does the realtime rendering work properly this would be a definate plus
Keep creaming
If I work in xtcmode then I only use a controller via usbconnection, coz ableton is the host, if I work in sfpmode than I use one controller via midi-connection to control sfp, and one controller via usbconnection to control ableton.
That works fine for me...
I also think sfpmode is more stable, but xtcmode is cool to play with, you have quick results without routing your ass of I can make samples very quickly and easily that way for later use... combining vst and creamware..
And about your problem... I don't know if creamware can see the usbconnection from your pc as a midi-device... maybe you can find the answer at planetz.com
keep creaming indeed !!!
That works fine for me...
I also think sfpmode is more stable, but xtcmode is cool to play with, you have quick results without routing your ass of
I can make samples very quickly and easily that way for later use... combining vst and creamware..And about your problem... I don't know if creamware can see the usbconnection from your pc as a midi-device... maybe you can find the answer at planetz.com
keep creaming indeed !!!
hi,
i'm sure one you can help me with this. i'm having real trouble setting up abletons audio latency with my pulsar 2 card.
ok, i'm NOT using XTC mode. i followed the ableton step-by-step tutorial for setting up audio latency. no prob. i adjusted the audio latency to 1.5ms.
now i've got my drum machine slaved to ableton using midi clock. i hit play in ableton and the drum machine plays. i leave it a couple of bars before i hit record in ableton to record a loop from my drum machine. i record the loop and it ends up with a 64ms delay at the begining.
do i need to adjust my midi latency settings to compensate for this?
i tried adjusting them by 64ms and i'm still getting the same result..
what latency settings are you using?..
am i missing something?..
cheers VERY much for any help on this!
D
i'm sure one you can help me with this. i'm having real trouble setting up abletons audio latency with my pulsar 2 card.
ok, i'm NOT using XTC mode. i followed the ableton step-by-step tutorial for setting up audio latency. no prob. i adjusted the audio latency to 1.5ms.
now i've got my drum machine slaved to ableton using midi clock. i hit play in ableton and the drum machine plays. i leave it a couple of bars before i hit record in ableton to record a loop from my drum machine. i record the loop and it ends up with a 64ms delay at the begining.
do i need to adjust my midi latency settings to compensate for this?
i tried adjusting them by 64ms and i'm still getting the same result..
what latency settings are you using?..
am i missing something?..
cheers VERY much for any help on this!
D
2 DFENS
I don't use external hardware except for effects etc.. and I also don't resample in ableton, or record tracks in it... I have another way of working..
I arrange samples and midi patterns in ableton, re-edit it etc., mix it in creamware and record all the tracks at once in wavelab...
But I will try it next week or something with a hardwaresynth and/or drummachine, record it in a track in ableton, to see if it gives me the same problem.. Can't try it now, coz I'm moving the studio to another place....
I work with the lowest latency that is possible in creamware... (the first setting in the ulli-settings)
you will hear from me....
grtz..
I don't use external hardware except for effects etc.. and I also don't resample in ableton, or record tracks in it... I have another way of working..
I arrange samples and midi patterns in ableton, re-edit it etc., mix it in creamware and record all the tracks at once in wavelab...
But I will try it next week or something with a hardwaresynth and/or drummachine, record it in a track in ableton, to see if it gives me the same problem.. Can't try it now, coz I'm moving the studio to another place....
I work with the lowest latency that is possible in creamware... (the first setting in the ulli-settings)
you will hear from me....
grtz..
