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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by Hidden Driveways » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:46 am

d.reamonn wrote:The French, as they are discussed here, would see everything that is good about human nature clipped and destroyed. A real world case of Atlas Shrugged, the minds that have kept that country afloat are slowly vanishing into the night, leaving behind a mass of starving parasites whose only talents consist of complaining and pleading for more. In France, it is considered a sin to be rich, successful or happy. It is considered noble to be weak.

Good riddance.
Whatever to that. I love the French.

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by LoopStationZebra » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:38 pm

Do you hear that? Do you?

It's the sound of another little piece of the Socialist Dream dying away.

It's beautiful.

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by Angstrom » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:52 pm

ITT : workers tricked into thinking they are the bosses

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by rote fahne » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:00 pm

LoopStationZebra wrote:Do you hear that? Do you?

It's the sound of another little piece of the Socialist Dream dying away.

It's beautiful.

:lol:
The Socialist Dream is still alive, its called the United States of America.

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by malutki » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:26 pm

LoopStationZebra wrote:Do you hear that? Do you?

It's the sound of another Dream dying .

It's beautiful.
and then you wonder why i sold you? :(
I'm going home

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by beats me » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:39 pm

pepezabala wrote:
beats me wrote:Just caught wind that unions in France are generally fucking up the country through protests and strikes over the proposed retire age being raised from 60 to 62. Here in the states it's a pipedream for most people to retire much before the age of 65 and by the time I approach that age the accepted retirement age will be closer to 85.

Silliest of all students are getting involved in the protests. That's like a fetus protesting the legal drinking age.

Could France use some serious problems? We've got plenty here we'd like to cut loose.

Well, if you happily accept to work until 85, that's your problem. I prefer to live in europe, work 30 hours a week, eat real food, smoke real cigarettes and drink real coffee. And retire at 57, ha!
The only place I've been to in Europe is Madrid and I did marvel at the laidback lifestyle. Places would close at like 1 in the afternoon and may or may not reopen later in the day and nobody really gave a shit one way or the other. A lot of extended eating and drinking going on at a leisurely pace. The older people complained about the "kids" there becoming Americanized meaning materialistic, selfish, and less interested in family. That made me sad.

But having said that, there's a big difference between "sounds good to me" and reality. The whole reason the economies of the world are fucked up is because too many people said "sounds good to me" without bothering to do the math. I heard recently that Spain's unemployment level hovers around 20% and the reason there isn't riots or people aren't throwing themselves off of bridges is because the government takes care of the unemployed to the point that it's really unattractive to get a job. But if you have that many people living off the system and not enough people paying in eventually there's going to be a tipping point where the money isn't there and it sounds like all over the world that tipping point has arrived. But since there's been a long history of social welfare people think it's a God given right. Everybody wants to blame the government for wasting money on projects they don't believe in but fail to see their welfare supported asses as being part of the problem as well, and I don't mean that just in respect to Spain.

Heard something on the radio the other day that if they got rid of a lot of public assistance bloat and overhead they could use the same money to give every American citizen a check for $17,000. I think that would be an interesting experiment and at least on some level would give a boost to the economy with our rampant consumerism mentality.

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by RonaldDumsfeld » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:17 pm

The French have a very nice lifestyle and they want to keep it.

You'd do the same if you had got used to it.

Just 'cos your life is shit doesn't mean everybody else has to to have the same and pretend to like it.

Do the math. Less than 5% of the worlds population 'owns' more than 95% of all the money. That means if those privileged fuckers could scrape by on half as much each the rest of us would be 3x better off.

Just saying...

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by d.reamonn » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:24 pm

RonaldDumsfeld wrote:The French have a very nice lifestyle and they want to keep it.

You'd do the same if you had got used to it.

Just 'cos your life is shit doesn't mean everybody else has to to have the same and pretend to like it.

Do the math. Less than 5% of the worlds population 'owns' more than 95% of all the money. That means if those privileged fuckers could scrape by on half as much each the rest of us would be 3x better off.

Just saying...
Keep this up and I'm gonna start using strong language.

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by H20nly » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:28 pm

beats me wrote:Heard something on the radio the other day that if they got rid of a lot of public assistance bloat and overhead they could use the same money to give every American citizen a check for $17,000. I think that would be an interesting experiment and at least on some level would give a boost to the economy with our rampant consumerism mentality.
keep the public assistance. get rid of the military bloat instead.

first George Washington warned against a standing army and Eisenhower pleaded the same... people don't need weapons they need food, clothing, shelter and good health care.
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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by beats me » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:44 pm

H20nly wrote:
beats me wrote:Heard something on the radio the other day that if they got rid of a lot of public assistance bloat and overhead they could use the same money to give every American citizen a check for $17,000. I think that would be an interesting experiment and at least on some level would give a boost to the economy with our rampant consumerism mentality.
keep the public assistance. get rid of the military bloat instead.

first George Washington warned against a standing army and Eisenhower pleaded the same... people don't need weapons they need food, clothing, shelter and good health care.
True as that may be that will never happen in this country, at least not on a level that would make much of an impact. We'll reduce military spending but not until we've raped every other department first.

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by najemsworb » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:08 pm

alex.the.forge wrote:the French have the right idea IMO

their working week is small as well. 2 hour lunch breaks. Last I heard the official maximum working week in the UK is 48 hours… IN France they were protesting it going up to something ridiculous like 32! It should be about living your life, not spending it all working.

It seems they kept their revolutionary spirit, meanwhile US/UK get fucked over by the greediest of bankers and the govt gives them billions of taxpayer money in reward and it's just another day! That's seriously something worth rioting over. Heads should have rolled over that.

In fact I'm really glad I'm not in the UK now - as a result of the GFC the new government - which is Tories enabled by the fucking Lib Dems (who were supposed to be a left wing alternative to both Tory and Labor) are allowing them to dismantle all the public services that help the less privileged - so in other words, the bankers were bailed out by taxpayer money, and now the poorest and most vulnerable are going to be the ones who pay for the bankers being allowed to keep their porsches. And unemployment is up to something like 10% which means more people will need benefits etc. And they will get away with it.

Heads should fucking roll.
Word.

beats me wrote:Just caught wind that unions in France are generally fucking up the country through protests and strikes over the proposed retire age being raised from 60 to 62. Here in the states it's a pipedream for most people to retire much before the age of 65 and by the time I approach that age the accepted retirement age will be closer to 85.

Silliest of all students are getting involved in the protests. That's like a fetus protesting the legal drinking age.

Could France use some serious problems? We've got plenty here we'd like to cut loose.

Booo!

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by beats me » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:39 pm

Looks like it passed. So suck it. Or go behead people. It's been awhile.

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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by madlab » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:48 am

beats me wrote:Just caught wind that unions in France are generally fucking up the country through protests and strikes over the proposed retire age being raised from 60 to 62. Here in the states it's a pipedream for most people to retire much before the age of 65 and by the time I approach that age the accepted retirement age will be closer to 85.

Silliest of all students are getting involved in the protests. That's like a fetus protesting the legal drinking age.

Could France use some serious problems? We've got plenty here we'd like to cut loose.
You brainless american bastard ! my father is 65, has worked as a cabinet maker since he was 14 and he can't retire because he would earn 350 € per month after having paid huges taxes all his life. He still works 6 out of 7 days and carries heavy stuff all the day alone. If you think life is made to die of a cancer at the age of 45 because of work stress and the need to satisfy your greed for plasma sceens and smart phones, go ahead !
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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by madlab » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:00 am

beats me wrote: Heard something on the radio the other day that if they got rid of a lot of public assistance bloat and overhead they could use the same money to give every American citizen a check for $17,000. I think that would be an interesting experiment and at least on some level would give a boost to the economy with our rampant consumerism mentality.
Why would we give every american citizen a check ? So you could buy more shit ? or maybe pay to China what you owe them...
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Re: Lazy French bastards

Post by LoopStationZebra » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:21 pm

RonaldDumsfeld wrote:The French have a very nice lifestyle and they want to keep it.

You'd do the same if you had got used to it.

Just 'cos your life is shit doesn't mean everybody else has to to have the same and pretend to like it.

Do the math. Less than 5% of the worlds population 'owns' more than 95% of all the money. That means if those privileged fuckers could scrape by on half as much each the rest of us would be 3x better off.

Just saying...



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