Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by aisling » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:24 am

Mint Invader wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:
auto-lock wrote:i guess its only you... :lol:

i really don't understand whats so special about it though. I think moogs are synths that only older generations can appreciate, but the newer generations? i don't think so...
That's a sad sad comment on the state of music these days really.
Do some research if you don't understand, you're conclusion is wrong.
Its a color of sound hard to recreate.
+1. Simply amazing filters. Not that software can't compete, but hats off to the legends.
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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by flowdesigner » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:59 am

Poop_Smear wrote: even a Joe Meek unit would be satisfactory
You have to pay serious $ for the original one with make-up on the back, and I thought you were kidding about the arturia sounding exactly like a model d minimog...

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Mint Invader » Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:52 pm

aisling wrote:
+1. Simply amazing filters. Not that software can't compete, but hats off to the legends.

Ya I come, "Close", with massive, eq's, distort plugs, and such. But its a hassle.
Because Whatever.

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Poop_Smear » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:21 pm

flowdesigner wrote:
Poop_Smear wrote: even a Joe Meek unit would be satisfactory
You have to pay serious $ for the original one with make-up on the back, and I thought you were kidding about the arturia sounding exactly like a model d minimog...
:mrgreen:
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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by auto-lock » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:47 pm

Machinesworking wrote:
auto-lock wrote:i guess its only you... :lol:

i really don't understand whats so special about it though. I think moogs are synths that only older generations can appreciate, but the newer generations? i don't think so...
That's a sad sad comment on the state of music these days really.
Do some research if you don't understand, you're conclusion is wrong.
well could you convince me other wise? and do you honestly believe the price is justified?

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Mint Invader » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:54 pm

auto-lock wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:
auto-lock wrote:i guess its only you... :lol:

i really don't understand whats so special about it though. I think moogs are synths that only older generations can appreciate, but the newer generations? i don't think so...
That's a sad sad comment on the state of music these days really.
Do some research if you don't understand, you're conclusion is wrong.
well could you convince me other wise? and do you honestly believe the price is justified?
Lol then build one thats cheaper.
Because Whatever.

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Machinesworking » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:06 pm

auto-lock wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:
auto-lock wrote:i guess its only you... :lol:

i really don't understand whats so special about it though. I think moogs are synths that only older generations can appreciate, but the newer generations? i don't think so...
That's a sad sad comment on the state of music these days really.
Do some research if you don't understand, you're conclusion is wrong.
well could you convince me other wise? and do you honestly believe the price is justified?
No I can't convince you. Sound is entirely subjective. Take for instance aliasing in soft synths and digital synths in general, mostly it's looked upon as the week spot in digital synthesis, but 8 bit sounds use this to an advantage. The emulations of the Moog in software form are all pretty good, but if you really use the hell out of Moog basslines, then a hardware box makes sense. If you don't like the sound of Moog synths then it doesn't matter, if you do, what you get with the Slim Phatty (and analogue hardware like it), is a dedicated box that produces the basic Moog sound with no aliasing and hands on controls.
I would be willing to bet that 90% of the music you listen to is made by people who own an old school analogue synth, there's a reason for that. :wink:

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by flowdesigner » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:39 pm

Poop_Smear wrote:
:mrgreen:

Whats up with the green face? :x

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by oblique strategies » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:08 am

YES.

There are times when the last thing you want to use to make music with is a computer. :wink:

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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Poop_Smear » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:55 pm

flowdesigner wrote:
Poop_Smear wrote:
:mrgreen:

Whats up with the green face? :x
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

...and the GForce Minimonsta is even better than the Arturia stuff...in fact, it's dead-on.
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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Poop_Smear » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:57 pm

i really don't understand whats so special about it though. I think moogs are synths that only older generations can appreciate, but the newer generations? i don't think so...[/quote]
That's a sad sad comment on the state of music these days really.
Do some research if you don't understand, you're conclusion is wrong.[/quote]

well could you convince me other wise? and do you honestly believe the price is justified?[/quote]

I would be willing to bet that 90% of the music you listen to is made by people who own an old school analogue synth, there's a reason for that. :wink:[/quote]

Dead wrong. :roll:
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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Digital_Damage » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:00 pm

Machinesworking wrote:No I can't convince you. Sound is entirely subjective. Take for instance aliasing in soft synths and digital synths in general, mostly it's looked upon as the week spot in digital synthesis, but 8 bit sounds use this to an advantage. The emulations of the Moog in software form are all pretty good, but if you really use the hell out of Moog basslines, then a hardware box makes sense. If you don't like the sound of Moog synths then it doesn't matter, if you do, what you get with the Slim Phatty (and analogue hardware like it), is a dedicated box that produces the basic Moog sound with no aliasing and hands on controls.
I would be willing to bet that 90% of the music you listen to is made by people who own an old school analogue synth, there's a reason for that. :wink:
No one listens to disco anymore.


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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by Machinesworking » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:52 pm

Digital_Damage wrote: No one listens to disco anymore.
I wish you were right, but trying to paint Moogs as only being good for disco?
Troll harder.
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Re: Anyone else besides me stoked for the new "Slim" Phatty

Post by ibdk » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:51 pm

I just picked up a Slim Phatty, it was either that or a xoxbox. The Moog filter won out in the end.

Software has it's place, and can simulate/synthesize the sounds of the analog circuits up to a point. It's the extreme ends of the hardware that software cannot recreate. Aalto can do many things the Buchla can, but the Buchla goes beyond what the software can do, same with moog virtual analogs, get things overdriven, and it won't sound like the real thing. Somewhere in the middle of the timbre spectrum, and you could fool most people, including me. But at the extremes, software begins to fail where analog circuits get stressed and turn into another animal.

Open the hardware synths up to interacting with each other, and no software can keep up, and you have something unique that isn't possible with software off the shelf. Ever try sending envelopes from one software synth to 3 others to modulate things that aren't "normal" synth routings such as transposing a sequencer while inversing the frequency sent to the filters, while blah blah blah? Software would be a nightmare if possible, hardware would be a few cables.

Cross modulations and feedback loops of audio and control is why I like hardware, especially with voltage control. Plus no risk of ever crashing, freezing, etc.

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