Ableton routing process

[yann_]

Hi i'm new to this and i've got a little problem

my soundcard is an audio-8 from native instruments and i've grouped my channels to route the audio to 8 solo outputs from the soundcard in ableton

those outputs are connected to 8 channels on my mackie vlz 1604 analogue mixer

now i have like 2 questions hope someone can help me out.
how would i rerecord things any suggestions ???
the other part of my problem is i can't use my sends anymore doing this does any1 maybe knows how to solve this thnx in advance

sincerly yann

ps: i don't use my master anymore so my master doesn't have like audiocard output 1/2

[Ableton_David]

Hi Yann, let me make sure I'm getting your setup right: It sounds like you are using all 8 outputs on your interface, and patching those in directly to channels on your mixer. Is this correct?

If you're looking to use send effects in Live with this, then you just need to make sure that the routing is correct. Enable In/Out View, and make sure that the audio from the return channels that you want to use is going out to an output that you are using on your sound card. If, for example, you aren't using the master out, then you'll need to manually reroute the return tracks to go where you want them to go.

As to recording, are you looking to record in Live, or using an external recording device? If you're looking to record in Live, then it might be smarter to ditch the analog mixer. While you can manually patch a channel out of your interface back in to an input, you risk losing audio fidelity, and may get some accidental feedback. If you want to record in Live, using your interface, then it's easier to simply go to Preferences->Audio and make sure you have your interface enabled as an Audio Output device. If you're on Windows, make sure to use ASIO - on a Mac, use Core Audio. Next, the easiest thing to do is just have audio from all tracks routed to the Master track - you can change this, but keep in mind where you are sending audio to when it comes time to export your recording.

[yann_]

yeah ure getting it right the routing of my setup

but for the sends, i got like 8 send channels normally and standard they are routed to the master outputs i think, but now i can't apply em to the group channels, if i turn the button send A on channel 1 for example it doesn't affect the the channel you don't hear the effect working

but i can't assign like send 1 to external output 1 or something like that cause i don't want 1 send 4 each groupchannel but what i want is 8 sendfx for 8 channels like how it normally works :p



here's the pic of my template

[SRangel]

I have a similar problem - if I understand everything (no expert).
I have each channel going to a different channel in my soundcard's mixer. I wanted to set a couple of returns for effects, but it looks like the returns can't automatically return to where the signal came from but just to a certain output - master or any channel. That's not really any help for me - I can just put the effects in the track. (or am I missing something?)

About recording: doesn't your sound card have a software mixer? I mix everything in my software (Creamware Scope) mixer and send a stereo output to my souncard's analog output - in my case to a little mixer and to my active speakers. To record I just connect the same mix from my SW mixer's output, to the ASIO destination which is the input to Live. I hope that helps??

[Ableton_David]

Hi, in both of your cases, it looks like you need to set the return tracks to be going out to the same output channel as the tracks you want to have the send effects. The other option, is to keep all the return tracks going to the Master, and make sure you have the Master going out one of the the active outputs on your sound card.