Disk overload

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Sat May 21, 2005 7:12 pm

live 4.1.2
I'm working on this project that has about 15 stereo 24 bit 44Khz tracks and 6 mono 24bit 44Khz, Not all are playing at the same time.

Runs fine, but after a while (haven't found a pattern yet, sometimes after just a few minutes) suddenly the audio drops out, the red D blinks. I quit Live and re-launch and it's fine again.
My HD is defragmented. (CPU 23 max hen it happens)
ideas ?

it seems to happen after I've copied pasted and repeated small chunks out of long tracks of audio. Once I restart Live it's not stumbling on them anymore

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Sun May 22, 2005 2:09 am

it keeps happening, and it's as soon as I paste something.

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Sun May 22, 2005 2:13 am

it's not the pasting actually it's the UNDO.

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Sun May 22, 2005 4:47 am

welcome to my world.
(notice the date when i joined)
this has been present since version 1. LIVE's audio engine
is good but not as robust as "you know who"

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Sun May 22, 2005 10:32 am

really ? woaw !

you mean you suffer from the same symptoms, did you find something that creates it particularly ? I've worked on a few projects but it's the first time it happens so regularly.

And what's ableton's position on this ?

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Sun May 22, 2005 10:36 am

Chris J, try the latest version, Live 4.1.2

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Sun May 22, 2005 6:20 pm

oops did I say 4.0.2 ?

I meant 4.1.2. (never had a 4.0.2 actually)

(corrected first post for clarity)

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Mon May 23, 2005 2:15 pm

dpel,
have you found why it's happening, and does it happen all the time?
On this project I just can't do any copying pasting without having to quit & restart the bloody program each time.
really getting on my nerves !

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Mon May 23, 2005 3:13 pm

Have the same problems. So to be on safe side use RAM for all smaller clips

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Mon May 23, 2005 9:00 pm

Chris J wrote:dpel,
have you found why it's happening, and does it happen all the time?
On this project I just can't do any copying pasting without having to quit & restart the bloody program each time.
really getting on my nerves !

not really, it's so random. i mostly notice it on editing and moving track audio around
i'm using 4.1.2.
it happened just now as i moved a gtr track with some edits
from one track with no plugs to a track with one VST gtr amp emulator plug.
the red d lights up and i get drop outs in audio.
it's a song with 27 tracks but only 12 are on. reasonable amount of plugs (mostly ableton) 2 returns (verb and delay)
even when i set everything to RAM, 1024 buffer, disable all unsed I/O
etc etc.

good luck

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Mon May 23, 2005 10:30 pm

yes your symptoms are very similar. For me right now it happens pasting on the very same track.

so you quit and restart and it's ok again ?

Did you send a self contained song to ableton, or get feedback from them ?

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Tue May 24, 2005 5:51 am

Chris J wrote:yes your symptoms are very similar. For me right now it happens pasting on the very same track.

so you quit and restart and it's ok again ?

Did you send a self contained song to ableton, or get feedback from them ?

right, pasting within the same track. very bizzare.
if i close and then re-open helps sometimes as well.

no substantial feedback from them. i did not send a self contained to them.
my songs are quite large.

ntp · Post by **ntp** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:52 pm

I'm new to this forum, but am having a similar problem.

I have 6-7 sessions that I've created in Live. Only one of them is giving me this problem. It happens to be one that has 4 - 5 minute stereo tracks in it. I have copies of those clips and some of the copies are looping just a small section of the 5 minute total.

I'm wondering if this is what is putting strain on the hard drive?

Any thoughts? Any chance Ableton will weigh in on this?

Tim.

P4 2.4ghz, 1 gig RAM..Live 3.0

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:45 pm

ntp wrote:I have 6-7 sessions that I've created in Live. Only one of them is giving me this problem. It happens to be one that has 4 - 5 minute stereo tracks in it. I have copies of those clips and some of the copies are looping just a small section of the 5 minute total.

I'm wondering if this is what is putting strain on the hard drive?

Well that's what I thought at first but when I quit and restart it's fine (it's just I have to do it every 2 minutes, ie once I edit or record something).

ndp, is it OK once you quit and restart ?

dpel : So sometimes restarting don't help then ?
I'm going to put a self contained song on ftp for ableton because this is unacceptable.
They probably don't get sent big songs, so if there's a bug in large songs (which there is obviously) they must have never looked into it.

ntp · Post by **ntp** » Tue May 24, 2005 5:13 pm

Well, not to sound trite, but I don't understand what good it would be to have to restart. Afterall, I'm using this LIVE - I can't be restarting my computer.

I'm going to try to carve my mini-loops into their own seperate WAV's instead of setting a tight loop on a 5 minute WAV and see what happens.

I'll post back here later...