This is one thing that after recently using ProTools I feel Live is really lacking in.... ProTools has something called 'AudioSuite' where you can click on a bit of audio and put effects on it in real-time, it is great for editing audio segments - doing things like reversing, pitch shifting, and one of my favorite techniques 'time compression-expansion', which is fairly self-explanatory.
If you want to do this with a piece of audio in Live you have to put it in simpler/sampler and spend a long time messing around to get the same effects as audiosuite, but I don't think you can get it as good. I don't think its possible to do time compression-expansion at all?
Please develop this for the next Live!!
An equivalent of ProTools' AudioSuite
An equivalent of ProTools' AudioSuite
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Winterpark
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Re: An equivalent of ProTools' AudioSuite
About what?am wrote:you had me there for a minute...
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Re: An equivalent of ProTools' AudioSuite
OK, sounds like there needs to be some clarification here. Audiosuite in Pro Tools is NOT real-time. It is, in fact, the opposite. You are making a newly rendered file to replace the previous one for the purpose of saving processing power by NOT running the effects in real-time within the Inserts for each track.
That said, your issue with time compression and expansion: Dude. Ableton does this BETTER than Pro Tools by a landslide! Pro Tools algorithm seems to work well for fixing drums tracking or moving around transients on mono sources, but when you put it all together, things start to not line up AND if you go too far (not very far at all though) the sound begins to distort. Sometimes this can be a cool-sounding effect but you don't always want it. If you do the tutorial in Ableton Live regarding clip warping, you will be on the path to learning the Ableton time stretching capabilities. You can do some amazing stretches! Very useful to DJ.
In regards to everything else, I'm with you. Of course you can just temporarily put an effect on a track then send it through a different track and record a new effected/wet clip yourself, it'd be nice if you could simply "apply" an effect to an existing clip so that Ableton creates a new clip on your HDD automatically next to the original but with the effect on it. That's what Audiosuite is all about! Hmmmm....
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That said, your issue with time compression and expansion: Dude. Ableton does this BETTER than Pro Tools by a landslide! Pro Tools algorithm seems to work well for fixing drums tracking or moving around transients on mono sources, but when you put it all together, things start to not line up AND if you go too far (not very far at all though) the sound begins to distort. Sometimes this can be a cool-sounding effect but you don't always want it. If you do the tutorial in Ableton Live regarding clip warping, you will be on the path to learning the Ableton time stretching capabilities. You can do some amazing stretches! Very useful to DJ.
In regards to everything else, I'm with you. Of course you can just temporarily put an effect on a track then send it through a different track and record a new effected/wet clip yourself, it'd be nice if you could simply "apply" an effect to an existing clip so that Ableton creates a new clip on your HDD automatically next to the original but with the effect on it. That's what Audiosuite is all about! Hmmmm....
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Re: An equivalent of ProTools' AudioSuite
"Freezing" might work depending on what you're doing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhsmiRiC ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhsmiRiC ... re=related
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