Pitch Bend range of a drum rack

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BPmusic
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Pitch Bend range of a drum rack

Post by BPmusic » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:15 pm

Hello,

I've sliced a beat to the drumrack. Now i wanna pitchbend like +24, but Ableton only lets me do it to +5 or something.

Can somebody help me with this?

Thanks

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Re: Pitch Bend range of a drum rack

Post by Thomas » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:52 pm

would love to know this as well
can change all of them to samplers but thats a lot of work when slicing huuuge loops

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Re: Pitch Bend range of a drum rack

Post by self77 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:20 pm

can you set up a new slicing preset with each device in the rack as samplers?

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Re: Pitch Bend range of a drum rack

Post by tinymachines » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:39 am

Can you just set the transpose to the macro for the drum rack? You would have to go through each instrument to set it, but then you would be able to change on the fly while playing live. +/- 48 st I believe is the limit with that method.

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Re: Pitch Bend range of a drum rack

Post by labrat51 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:53 am

the transpose method works well if you want to jump semitones , and you can really hear it do this once you assign and use the macro, unfortunately you lose the glide function that the pitch bend provides, the only workaround to get a neat glide from -24 to +24 that i found so far involves a blend of both controls , and requires painstaking precision automation to achieve. using samplers in an instrument rack is definitely the way to go, and it would be a refreshing touch if ableton were to give you the choice between an instument rack laden with samplers , or a drum rack full of simplers when executing "slice to new MIDI track" but i guess this would only be possible once they start bundling "sampler" with a standard Live package, which to be honest, its about time they did. Logic got away with it once they bundled the EXS24 sampler in with their main package , albeit due to a takeover from Apple, and weathered a fair share of complaints from their faithful userbase who had shelled out silly money for these plugins for years, but it in no way diminished sales , or continued support from their existing customers: Sampler, like Amp, is definitely considered an indispensable tool within Ableton's environment, and doesn't belong in the same category as all the other sexy new "add-on" instruments you get for upgrading to "suite". Lets hope a future update will take this into consideration. i'm working a lot with racks right now, and am coming across many frustrating limitations behind the guise of batch automated commands like setting a choke group drum rack as a slicing preset for quick creation of multisample instruments, or " map to siblings" which i thoroughly enjoy. For instance, if you wanted to apply a macro to select different samples in real time on a drum or instrument rack, you currently have to set up many instances of the rack or sampler in question and map them to a chain so you can scan through them, but then you lose all the benefits of mapping filters, envelopes, pitch etc to siblings as you can't apply values "cross rack", in a rack of 64 to 128 different samplers, thats a lot of late nights and repetitive tasks. they day they cut through THAT computer scripted "red tape", is the day the missing link that will bind all the loose ends in rack creation comes to the fore, and we can get on with making some very useful live performance tools indeed

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Re: Pitch Bend range of a drum rack

Post by labrat51 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:30 pm

MY BAD, sibling mapping from simpler works cross chain. right, time to get busy

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