Rane SL3 Serato Scratch Live and the feeling

[themeerkat]

Hey guys,

if was thinking of me giving myself a nice christmas present. what i have in mind is the Rane SL3 Serato Scratch Live, but i'm wondering if it really suites me since i really love djing with vinyl and having a rather rough pitch. i actually like beatmatching the records manually instead of pitching it with the faders.
perhaps i should mention, that i like to play out mostly minimal/electro/techno, mainly that sort of stuff.

so i think what i am asking is if some of you guys can or cannont not confirm, that you can go kinda rough and straight to the Rane SL3. is it stable? is pitching it up and down by hand an issue or is it like good old vinyl? does it have the feeling?

many thanks in advance

the meerkat

[JuanSOLO]

For either DVS you choose, you can decide to not use any of the modern features of DJ software to keep it close to using original vinyl. But at the same time using somethings to make it a bit more fun too.

Outside of not having to put on a different record, you can keep it very true. At this point I would say the 2 main DVS systems out are some of the most stable and predictable software I have ever used.

[Trypset]

no.

Vinyl feels like vinyl, and spinnng timecoded vinyl on a DVS does not feel the same.

you can't "feel" the records individual grooves b/c there are none on a timecode....it all "feels" the same.

go try one before you buy it. I love me some DVS, but to answer your question. To me, it does not feel the same.

[Cowlash]

I played vinyl from around 1992 and stopped using it in 2006 when I got Scratch Live. Its VERY similar, but not exact. I wouldnt even stress about how different it is as its so close.

You don't need to feel any grooves as far as I'm aware, to pitch-bend up just grab the spindle, and to pitch down, slide your finger along the platter. No different to using vinyl. There are grooves on a time coded vinyl (or where would the needle go?) but you wont get the feel of the different weights that vinyl has - but that's because you just leave it on the deck until it wears down to the slipmat (Dont do that)

It took me a while to get in to using the other features in relative mode, but once I did, there was no holding back. You'll really love absolute mode when you first start using it, but once you get curious to the other features, you'll really love DJing again - well, I did at least

As far as stability, I crashed it twice when I first got it. It was my own fault for not building overviews first, I blame the laptop not having enough power. So, nothing bad for nearly 5 years now.

Definitely go and play with it hooked up somewhere first though, it's a big price to pay for something you think you might not like

[Trypset]

I can feel when a strong kick or strong bassline kicks on when I play vinyl.

I have to listen or watch for the strong kick or strong bassline when using DVS.

Not hatin, just saying.

[themeerkat]

thank you guys for sharing your experience.
i really hoped to have such a reply as you pretty much confirmed my guess and what i have heard so far about this DVS.
so i think i'm gonna stick to the plan of buying serato scratch.
thanks again, it was all i needed to hear!

[Radio Arcade]

When you guys speak of feel, do you mean the sound or how it actually feels on your hands??

Ive djd for 15 years and things like traktor/serato feels the exact same to me as your are using to vinyls! and Ive never noticed latency.

It obviously sounds differnt as its digital files like you would play on a cdj....

[brycebsp]

I agree with Radio Arcade. I was a strictly Vinyl DJ for close to 10 years before I added Serato. I notice no difference. The only comment I would have is that you quickly get used to being able to see the waveforms during your mixes. When I switch back to regular vinyl I find myself constantly looking up at the screen to double check things. The waveforms become your best friend but can also become a crutch.

[Radio Arcade]

I agree with Radio Arcade. I was a strictly Vinyl DJ for close to 10 years before I added Serato. I notice no difference. The only comment I would have is that you quickly get used to being able to see the waveforms during your mixes. When I switch back to regular vinyl I find myself constantly looking up at the screen to double check things. The waveforms become your best friend but can also become a crutch.

Same here