What do you guys use to record your OWN sounds

elemental · Post by **elemental** » Fri May 27, 2005 3:31 pm

Yeah I been looking at this as well ...
looks very good.

And the R4 even better, but with a much more wallet damage...

rsagevik wrote:I`m planning to get one of these

looks great

buzzcock · Post by **buzzcock** » Fri May 27, 2005 6:11 pm

What dissappoints me about Hi-MD is that you are tied to Sony's proprietatry BS. You have to use their software to get the sounds to your computer, which only runs on a PC anyway. I've also heard you can only transfer a file one time (Sony's copyright concern). Is this indeed the case? If so, then this is a major inconvenience. Hi-MD's highest record mode is 1.4 mb/s linear PCM, which I believe is equivallent to 16/44.1.

Flash seems to be the way to go since it is universal and cross-platform. Plus, no moving parts! But no one has delivered a good, inexpensive unit. The Edirol R1 just looks junky, and while it's 24 bit, it's limited to 44.1 khz.

On the other hand the Marantz PMD 660 has all the features, but it's limited to 16bit and is big and chunky.

For that size, the Sound Devices 700 series is the way to go, but it sure aint cheap...and it's a bit overkill for what I need.

Can't someone make a MD size Flash recorder with some decent A/D coverters?

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Fri May 27, 2005 6:25 pm

buzzcock wrote:What dissappoints me about Hi-MD is that you are tied to Sony's proprietatry BS. You have to use their software to get the sounds to your computer, which only runs on a PC anyway. I've also heard you can only transfer a file one time (Sony's copyright concern). Is this indeed the case? If so, then this is a major inconvenience. Hi-MD's highest record mode is 1.4 mb/s linear PCM, which I believe is equivallent to 16/44.1.

Flash seems to be the way to go since it is universal and cross-platform. Plus, no moving parts! But no one has delivered a good, inexpensive unit. The Edirol R1 just looks junky, and while it's 24 bit, it's limited to 44.1 khz.

On the other hand the Marantz PMD 660 has all the features, but it's limited to 16bit and is big and chunky.

For that size, the Sound Devices 700 series is the way to go, but it sure aint cheap...and it's a bit overkill for what I need.

Can't someone make a MD size Flash recorder with some decent A/D coverters?

Sony can be infuriating with their decisions. It is the case that they did not want to rule the world and be the mother of iPod. Don't ask me to explain that in too much detail, save that in Japan copyright is properly protected and 125 million Japanese people is their test market. And the Japanese market is fundamentally different from the overseas market.

If a flash recorder existed that is as good as an MD recorder, and as cheap, I'd go for it. But such a device is not yet available.

The new MD recorders are only 44.1/16 bit wav recorders. And AFAIK you can only take that wav once to your PC. I don't know if you can do it twice as I have never had the need to try this. Maybe someone can explain why you would?

dx7 · Post by **dx7** » Fri May 27, 2005 6:56 pm

ever heard of the m-audio flash tracker? this will be the best audio recording tool to be released soon (hopefully). m-audio did a presentation at musikmesse frankfurt.

from my weblog: the Flash Tracker, a dimunuitvie hand-held recorder, using Compact Flash and Micro-drive as media, it sports (according to preliminary specs): 2x TRS mic/line jack inputs, 48V phantom power, 3.5mm jack mic in with 5V power for electrec and back condenser mic, SPDIF input, 3.5mm headphone out, RCA stereo out, USB 2.0

The unit really is palm sized and something that we are certainly lusting after. Unbelievably, this unit will be capable of 24-bit 96kHz recording and no doubt some popular compressed formats, we’ll have to wait and see. hopefully they change the shitty colours as well

if u wanna see a picture do a search on google or check out my posting:
http://www.energylab.de/wordpress/?p=923

anonymouse · Post by **anonymouse** » Fri May 27, 2005 7:09 pm

it's ugly, but specs sound good.

Diskclaimer · Post by **Diskclaimer** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:42 pm

anonymouse wrote:
Diskclaimer wrote:
rsagevik wrote:
Thank You very much I just orderd this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5770308812

The Black one..
Cool. I've the black one too. This is my 3rd Sony MD portable recorder and has been excellent so far.
Check out this http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?s= ... topic=9752 just incase you need to enable the full functionality available on the Japanese model. Some overseas versions are pre-configured with limitations that can be lifted quite easily by the user.

I use an Audio-technica AT9860 microphone.

Very good for field recording. Great stereo space.

Great I have heard some bad things about these concerning the limitations on transfering files between the unit and a pc

supster · Post by **supster** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:25 am

kennerb wrote:I decided not to reinvest in MD and instead went another route. I found the Iriver flash media player. This thing is small, Has USB to transfer, can record at very high quality both as wav and mp3, and is built tough with NO moving parts. That means less noise and less to break. Oh and it runs off of 1 aa battery for many hours. It also has fm that you can record. I usually record with a small sony stereo mic which works good for most close range recordings. I always carry this thing around as moments to record come up often.

Here's the player that I have

http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra ... p_795.aspx

Here's the mic

http://www.minidisco.com/ecm-ms907.html

nice, i have an i-River 880 .. never considered it till now but it has a line in.

does your 700 model have any features that mine doesnt as far as recording goes? or did you buy it just because it has more memory?

if i can use this i'll just buy a mic for it ...
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katha · Post by **katha** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:34 pm

hello,
i am actually just looking for a small and mobile recording device. there seem to be a lot of iRiver users, from what i've read. so are you really happy with the sound quality? an if you use the inbuilt microphones, isn't there any noise from the machine itself?

please mention the model of recorder (and extra microphone if you use them) you speak of.

thank you!
katha

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:32 pm

rsagevik wrote:
anonymouse wrote:my MD recorder lets you drop uncompressed wav recordings onto your PC as wav
really? not aware of that..
Thought everything transfered to or recorded was ATRAC`ed..

I was reading something about that recently - apparently ATRAC 3.5 is the same quality as DAT, and v3.5 is more than 5 years old now, so in other words the old "minidisc quality is shit" idea is over 5 years out of date.

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:24 pm

anonymouse wrote:
I use an Audio-technica AT9860 microphone.

Very good for field recording. Great stereo space.

Looks pretty cool, why can i only get one from japan though! dam it... i wish i was japanese, they have all the best stuff.

glsimonsen · Post by **glsimonsen** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:51 pm

Marantz cassette deck! AKG c10003 battery powered mic! Low tech but sounds nice. I use SoundSoap to take out the tape hiss.

Maybe if I had a wad of cash I'd get something digital which would be a lot more convenient for search/find/playing back sound files. Still, I like what I have.

quandry · Post by **quandry** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:35 pm

haven't read all of these posts, but I too am interested in doing bit of field recording for a project I'm doing. I was wondering, are there any good ways to record right onto your ipod (I just upgraded to the 60 gig and am not looking to buy a minidisc). ANy thoughts?

Ryan

katha · Post by **katha** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:21 pm

hello,

as to what good recording devices there are: i just received the iriver795 i had ordered the other day and am pretty disappointed. the hiss of the recording is just to loud for my pourposes. and whether i recorded using the in-built mic or an external one (sony ecm-ms907) didn't make any difference at all.

i want to be able to record small sounds like the tapping of fingers on wood, the clicking of two spoons or the like. but if i have to equalize the recording afterwards i loose the nice high bits of the sounds. so i am just looking for a device with very low (= almost no) noise. its really a shame manufacturers wont give any information on the recording quality of their devices!

so how about your recorders (the ones below 200 dollars, lets say). don't you mind a little noise for your purposes? or are yours really satisfying?
what about the cowon players? like this one or his cheeper 'collegues' ... iAudio x5 http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/x5/ oes anybody know them (or serious a review)?

katha

tedriot · Post by **tedriot** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:32 pm

SIXTO wrote:I want to go record cars riding by.. birds.. etc..
what is a cheap way to do that with?????

Thanks

You need a "parabolic microphone" !

http://images.google.com/images?q=parab ... rch+Images

and of course a Hi-MD to record it

cyphersum · Post by **cyphersum** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:39 pm

Perhaps this may do the trick. I know I want one now but $500 USD seems expensive. Why so much? If they priced it for half that, I would order one now.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/M ... -main.html

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