NAMM 2011 :: Ableton Live 9

[hoffman2k]

I have no interest in soundcloud integration.
The concept behind (and the usefulness of) Share is completely different.

+1 - just because it aint hard to manually upload. However it more of a pain the the arse firing up an mp3 converter.

If you want to add a useful additional export function - make it a quality mp3 export - tha I can then trivially upload to soundcloud, bandcamp and anywhere else for that matter if I choose to.

If Soundcloud is really a thing coming, I think it would be a part of Share. The Share beta we had last year showed us that there was no way to preview a Live Set without downloading it.
A Soundcloud collaboration could mean nothing more than providing a player for the set that is being shared. Which could mean the sharing process would pack and upload your Live Set, make a render and upload it too. All with a single click.
This would only work for arrangements, but it beats having no preview at all.

Then again, I love me a good old conspiracy. Developers at Ableton, Soundcloud and Bitwig are all connected with each other. The Bitwig guys left around the time the share beta was already going.
We still have no clue what these guys are up to. We just know its huge and significant.

NAMM... Maybe we'll see some announcement other than Ableton getting beat again by those giants at Serato in a game of basketball. But Messe... All those crazy German developers under one roof... Looking forward to that

[3phase]

NAMM... Maybe we'll see some announcement other than Ableton getting beat again by those giants at Serato in a game of basketball. But Messe... All those crazy German developers under one roof... Looking forward to that

crazy? are you reffering to guido westerwell ecrazy? or rather to david hazzlehof crazy? or more the peter pan type of crazy?

i actually would preffer a more crazy type of crazy .. but i heard thosse guys were all hired by the telecom and nasa years ago and trasported tp remote areas of the planet..so nothing you meet on biz fairs...

[Bizon]

NAMM... Maybe we'll see some announcement other than Ableton getting beat again by those giants at Serato in a game of basketball. But Messe... All those crazy German developers under one roof... Looking forward to that

crazy? are you reffering to guido westerwell ecrazy? or rather to david hazzlehof crazy? or more the peter pan type of crazy?

i actually would preffer a more crazy type of crazy .. but i heard thosse guys were all hired by the telecom and nasa years ago and trasported tp remote areas of the planet..so nothing you meet on biz fairs...

Was your post suppose to make sense? I did not understand any of it.

[mr.ergonomics]

time you need for making music = 99,9%
time you need for publishing = 0.1%

I need a good tool for the 99,9%...

0.1% on publishing? If you actually want to get anywhere and judging by alot of the crap thats out there - Id say more like 0.1% on production and 99.9% on publishing and bullshitting (erm I mean 'promotion') etc.

I would tend to agree more with this statement. Although the percentage would be higher obviously.

I am not yet at a position to market my stuff because I do not think it is “good enough” yet. However, when the time comes, I plan to spend a lot of time and many different methods to promote my music. I imagine a great more time spent on promotion/bullshit than music making.

I guess this would also go a long way to explain why there is so much shitty music out there and conversely, probably as much good music that is sitting on peoples drives.

sorry for my harsh comment but... you really don't have 5 muinutes to upload your tack via webbrowser? how many good tracks do you upload a month? think about it. I would say it's almost too easy to publish stuff today. no need for more.

[clank72]

I guess they should stay home and release a stabel version 8 before charging money for a not working version of Live 9.

I use Live all day and it's stable for me. Many times it's NOT the software. Try repairing your drive permissions or defrag a bit more. Or figure out what is conflicting. Many crashes are because of the hardware. If you have a shit audio interface then go figure.

I run an RME Fireface 800 and never have any issues.

I hear a lot of people bitching about how it's not stable. Either get a Mac or buy some good hardware.

[friend_kami]

I hear a lot of people bitching about how it's not stable. Either get a Mac or buy some good hardware.

now thats a bit ignorant, isnt it?

[clank72]

It depends.

But there is some truth behind it.

[Rationalizer]

I use Live all day and it's stable for me.

+1 and on WIN7, so no need for Mac yet.

So bring on the v9!

[Dexes]

I hear a lot of people bitching about how it's not stable. Either get a Mac or buy some good hardware.

You are aware of the fact that the people moaning the most and the loudest about live 8 permanently crashing are nearly all running it on a mac?

Although that's probably more of a mentality thing. Mac users buy a Mac because "it just works" and if it doesn't they know no better that to blame the program they're currently using.
Any somewhat experienced PC users encounter a problem and the first thing they do is check if all their drivers are up to date, look to see if their system settings are messed up etc. and as you say: many times it's not the the software and these things can easily be fixed by people who are aware that these kind of issues can occur on any computer running any OS.

By now, after all the point X updates it's gone through, crappy audio interface drivers is probably the most common reason for live crashing next to 3rd party plugins.

[clank72]

Crappy audio interface drivers is probably the most common reason for live crashing next to 3rd party plugins.

Then I rest my case. Crappy hardware comes with crappy drivers.

It's easier for a Windows user to shoot themselves in the foot. I used to use Windows for years, I only use it now if I have to. So I do have a low-risk on Macs and that is why I said that. But the main point of my post was to mention the hardware being the problem, not Live.

Some people go down and buy a Mac with an M-Audio cheap ass interface, and then they bitch about live not being stable. Many windows users know more about computers then most Mac users. That's fine and I agree. But after you buy a Mac, you are not finished. You should follow thru with quality components if you are serious.

[fx23]

But after you buy a Mac, you are not finished.

i tought it was the the reverse, if you were not finished you would buy a Mac.

Mac is just a PC with OSX. you can get exactly same hardware 50 percent cheaper. W7 blows out macOS (yes I used booth).
what are those silly 80's arg you make. L8 has been many times been proven not stable on booth platform.

edit: fixed messed quotes. forum is buggy as well, i suppose on booth platforms too.

[Bizon]

How in the hell did you guys manage to turn a NAMM 2011 thread into a Mac vs PC argument?

[fx23]

this always happen cause of apple fanboys arrogantly saying bullshit, in everything single thread in the internet.
you won't see pc users start the thing, never. He comes and say 'buy a mac and L8 will work', this is total bulshit.
Tons of mac users reported bugs as well. Just ask 3phaze if he think L8 is stable, if im not wrong he is using a mac..

namm is pure speculation useless thread anyway, no one as clue about what abes will do until they anounce.

[Khazul]

Just ask 3phaze if he think L8 is stable, if im not wrong he is using a mac..

Ah - so thats what went wrong for him then? :p

(Shudav got a pee ceee )

[fx23]

mac or pc is not the debate anyway and should be closed story, L8 was clearly not as stable as anterior versions,
Ableton themselves admited and commented on it when it was out.