Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by jamief » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:37 pm

purpurkatten wrote:Spectrasonics Omnisphere and Trilian relies on plenty of RAM, so if you push it with several instances of the plugins, you are bound to go down.

I mainly use Omnisphere/Trilian as my synth and Ableton Live 32 bit crashes on me several times every day if I don´t keep all synth tracks bounced to audio.

Very much looking forward to a stable Live 64 bit version soon. I would hate to look around for an other sequencer, but my patience has limits.
i have all the spectrasonics suite and i use maybe 10 instances of them all combined at the same time and i havent had any memory issues.
What instances have you experienced problems ? or are you purely being speculative in the problem you are trying to point out ?

Do you have the latest versions ? are you using cracks ?

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by CFX » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:46 pm

I have the same issue, honestly.

I'm running low with 4 EWQLSO (24-bit samples) sections: Contrabass/Double basses, Cellos, Trombones, and French Horns. I have all 3 mic positions activated for each section, and I'm sucking up 1.8GB of RAM. I WILL run out if I try to add woodwinds, violins, and orchestral percussion in addition to a full piano patch -- all of which are planned additions to the piece.

Yes, I can start bouncing to disk, but that really interrupts my workflow given how often I go in to each section to tweak notation or intonation/articulation.

Most of my projects don't run into an issue, but in this case I am, and it will be a trend for this project which relies on heavy orchestral bias.

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by purpurkatten » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:03 pm

jamief wrote:
purpurkatten wrote:Spectrasonics Omnisphere and Trilian relies on plenty of RAM, so if you push it with several instances of the plugins, you are bound to go down.

I mainly use Omnisphere/Trilian as my synth and Ableton Live 32 bit crashes on me several times every day if I don´t keep all synth tracks bounced to audio.

Very much looking forward to a stable Live 64 bit version soon. I would hate to look around for an other sequencer, but my patience has limits.
i have all the spectrasonics suite and i use maybe 10 instances of them all combined at the same time and i havent had any memory issues.
What instances have you experienced problems ? or are you purely being speculative in the problem you are trying to point out ?

Do you have the latest versions ? are you using cracks ?

best
J :)
Lucky you who have no problems. Apparently, more people than I have RAM-problems, using heavy duty VST-instruments in Live 32bit.

If you had read my post more carefully you would have seen that I was talking from experience, not speculation.

I always use the latest official versions of my software that I´ve paid for with my hard earned money. So I am not amused by your impolite insinuations that I would be using cracks.

The whole industry is gradually going 64bit and Omnisphere, among other VST-instruments, are starting to push the 32-bit limits. Ableton Live needs to catch up. That´s a fact.

I think it´s time to hear something from Ableton of how their work is progressing with 64 bit. Right now, as far as I can see, the users are left totally in the dark when it comes to the future of the software.

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by CFX » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:29 pm

purpurkatten wrote: The whole industry is gradually going 64bit and Omnisphere, among other VST-instruments, are starting to push the 32-bit limits. Ableton Live needs to catch up. That´s a fact.

I think it´s time to hear something from Ableton of how their work is progressing with 64 bit. Right now, as far as I can see, the users are left totally in the dark when it comes to the future of the software.
Couldn't agree more. Let's hope this is why Live 9 is taking so long.

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by kmika99 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:27 pm

purpurkatten wrote:
jamief wrote:
purpurkatten wrote:Spectrasonics Omnisphere and Trilian relies on plenty of RAM, so if you push it with several instances of the plugins, you are bound to go down.

I mainly use Omnisphere/Trilian as my synth and Ableton Live 32 bit crashes on me several times every day if I don´t keep all synth tracks bounced to audio.

Very much looking forward to a stable Live 64 bit version soon. I would hate to look around for an other sequencer, but my patience has limits.
i have all the spectrasonics suite and i use maybe 10 instances of them all combined at the same time and i havent had any memory issues.
What instances have you experienced problems ? or are you purely being speculative in the problem you are trying to point out ?

Do you have the latest versions ? are you using cracks ?

best
J :)
Lucky you who have no problems. Apparently, more people than I have RAM-problems, using heavy duty VST-instruments in Live 32bit.

If you had read my post more carefully you would have seen that I was talking from experience, not speculation.

I always use the latest official versions of my software that I´ve paid for with my hard earned money. So I am not amused by your impolite insinuations that I would be using cracks.

The whole industry is gradually going 64bit and Omnisphere, among other VST-instruments, are starting to push the 32-bit limits. Ableton Live needs to catch up. That´s a fact.

I think it´s time to hear something from Ableton of how their work is progressing with 64 bit. Right now, as far as I can see, the users are left totally in the dark when it comes to the future of the software.

This is very interesting to me..I'm considering updating my 4 year old computer to i7 64 bit...I've run sonar for years, but recently started moving over to live...it's really fun and i love just letting it run...i also am a huge fan of spectrasonics, and i have omnisphere and i'm considering stylus RMX...

I'm fine for now if Live is running in 32 bit, and is stable.. I don't overtax it.....but then can Omnisphere take advantage of the extra RAM, or am I condemned to Live's 32 bit engine and its limits on RAM?

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by jamief » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:48 pm

purpurkatten wrote:
jamief wrote:
purpurkatten wrote:Spectrasonics Omnisphere and Trilian relies on plenty of RAM, so if you push it with several instances of the plugins, you are bound to go down.

I mainly use Omnisphere/Trilian as my synth and Ableton Live 32 bit crashes on me several times every day if I don´t keep all synth tracks bounced to audio.

Very much looking forward to a stable Live 64 bit version soon. I would hate to look around for an other sequencer, but my patience has limits.
i have all the spectrasonics suite and i use maybe 10 instances of them all combined at the same time and i havent had any memory issues.
What instances have you experienced problems ? or are you purely being speculative in the problem you are trying to point out ?

Do you have the latest versions ? are you using cracks ?

best
J :)
Lucky you who have no problems. Apparently, more people than I have RAM-problems, using heavy duty VST-instruments in Live 32bit.

If you had read my post more carefully you would have seen that I was talking from experience, not speculation.

I always use the latest official versions of my software that I´ve paid for with my hard earned money. So I am not amused by your impolite insinuations that I would be using cracks.

The whole industry is gradually going 64bit and Omnisphere, among other VST-instruments, are starting to push the 32-bit limits. Ableton Live needs to catch up. That´s a fact.

I think it´s time to hear something from Ableton of how their work is progressing with 64 bit. Right now, as far as I can see, the users are left totally in the dark when it comes to the future of the software.
Apologies i wasnt trying to upset.. So far i can only see 2 people on hear with issues and the other personlooks like they are doing full scale orchestral mockups which is bound to be a heavy user beyond whatr many would use generally so they are the exception. As i said before i use a lot of plugins simultanously and have never had any issues at al.

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by purpurkatten » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:56 pm

kmika99 wrote: This is very interesting to me..I'm considering updating my 4 year old computer to i7 64 bit...I've run sonar for years, but recently started moving over to live...it's really fun and i love just letting it run...i also am a huge fan of spectrasonics, and i have omnisphere and i'm considering stylus RMX...

I'm fine for now if Live is running in 32 bit, and is stable.. I don't overtax it.....but then can Omnisphere take advantage of the extra RAM, or am I condemned to Live's 32 bit engine and its limits on RAM?
Omnisphere can only take advantage of more than 4 gig RAM if you use a 64 bit sequencer, which Live is not at this time. So, yes, you are condemned to Live´s 32 bit engine and its limits of RAM. That´s why I´m concerned and would like for Ableton Live to be 64bit ASAP.

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by purpurkatten » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:09 pm

jamief wrote:Apologies i wasnt trying to upset.. So far i can only see 2 people on hear with issues and the other personlooks like they are doing full scale orchestral mockups which is bound to be a heavy user beyond whatr many would use generally so they are the exception. As i said before i use a lot of plugins simultanously and have never had any issues at al.

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:)
As I said, the music software industry is going 64bit. There are reasons for it. For example, VST-instruments like Omnisphere can use more RAM for more advanced sample libraries.

Sooner or later, if you use Live with RAM-hungry VST-instruments, you are going to hit the 32-bit RAM roof. Some users have hit the roof already. Luckily for you, you have not yet.

Other sequencer companies have already addressed this problem. Ableton has not. Hence, Ableton is getting behind the competition.

This is the truth. If you choose to be in denial that´s your problem, not mine.

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by jamief » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:39 pm

purpurkatten wrote:
jamief wrote:Apologies i wasnt trying to upset.. So far i can only see 2 people on hear with issues and the other personlooks like they are doing full scale orchestral mockups which is bound to be a heavy user beyond whatr many would use generally so they are the exception. As i said before i use a lot of plugins simultanously and have never had any issues at al.

best
:)
As I said, the music software industry is going 64bit. There are reasons for it. For example, VST-instruments like Omnisphere can use more RAM for more advanced sample libraries.

Sooner or later, if you use Live with RAM-hungry VST-instruments, you are going to hit the 32-bit RAM roof. Some users have hit the roof already. Luckily for you, you have not yet.

Other sequencer companies have already addressed this problem. Ableton has not. Hence, Ableton is getting behind the competition.

This is the truth. If you choose to be in denial that´s your problem, not mine.

No denial hear but to peddlr the idea that ableton is not ready for people at the moment is your opinion and your opinion is ion the minority. Live 64 is coming. after having used live for over 10 years i do know what i am talking about hear. othere people may pickup from you postings that live is unusable and it certainly isnt. So people rest at peace 8O

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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by Khazul » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:48 pm

jamief wrote:So far i can only see 2 people on hear with issues and the other personlooks like they are doing full scale orchestral mockups which is bound to be a heavy user beyond whatr many would use generally so they are the exception. As i said before i use a lot of plugins simultanously and have never had any issues at al.

best
:)
The only time Ive hit the limits enough to curse is when doing an orchestral thing with a load of kontakt VSL instruments and a bunket load of instances of aether so that each section got its own reverb ER and a common LR for everything.

Otherwise never normally get close even with combinations of trillian and kontact sounds. (3.6GB available to Live normally).
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Re: Ableton with Windows 7 64-bit. Does it work with it?

Post by fishmac » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:20 am

Hi,

i don't know if somebody mentioned it already, but there is a software out there named jbridge, that let's you integrate 64-Bit Plugins in a 32 bit host by using the memory from the system and not from the memory allocated by live. this works VERY well for me. i use large sample libraries and mix with Nebula and while i ran out of memory often in the past, this issue is gone now.
so, yeah, a real 64-bit live would be great, but you can already work this way and use the benefits of Windows 7 64!

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